Sally Helm

We are actually still in the middle.

And we need to stick it out so that we can really earn whatever revelations are coming at the end.

This episode was produced by me, Sally Helm.

It was edited by Lissa Soep with help from Joanna Solitaroff.

Mixing and sound design from Christian Ayala.

Fact-checking from Melissa Hirsch.

Meredith Hodnot runs the show.

Amy Padula and Noam Hassenfeld are curcumin and piperine.

And Bert Pinkerton listened to the beak beeper as it started beeping more and more.

And then she noticed something off about the overhead lights.

One of them was facing the wrong way.

Thanks as always to Brian Resnick for co-creating the show along with Bird and Noam.

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