Sam Edmund

But I think the players that we admire the most are those that have done it on the bigger stage, largely on, like, Hodge, Selwood, Cotchen.

These are the guys that we revere in this game.

If you haven't done it, if you haven't been in the position to do it, then I think it's worthy of a discussion.

I'm not holding him responsible for all of that.

You sort of are, though.

The only question I'm asking is what is his legacy at Carlton going to be as a player?

And I think you have to put that into consideration.

No, he's in the Hall of Fame.

Yeah, he's individually in the Hall of Fame.

No worries.

I'm more talking about what his legacy amongst Blues fans, who I think largely love him and admire him.

That's the question we're asking this morning.

So really aggressive Malcolm Blight style, send Cripps back home, Weider and gone.

Does that work anymore?

Is there that style of coach anymore?

So we see it's very...

So is that a long mire or is that a younger coach?

Like long mire, I think, could go in there and go, gee, I'm listening to this guy.

When this guy talks, I'm listening.

But the coach that's been there before sometimes doesn't have the success...