Sam Hawley

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5,774 appearances 143 recordings 4 series first heard Jan 2026 last heard today

Sam Hawley’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Recordings per month over the last 12 months — 143 in all, peaking in Aug 2026 with 31.

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ABC News Daily · Is this Mark Zuckerberg's 'big tobacco' moment? · 25 Aug 2026 podcast

Now just some context. voice-verified

He started working for Meta's Facebook in Silicon Valley in 2009. voice-verified

And part of his job was simply to teach users really to be nice to each other, wasn't it? voice-verified

Just tell me about him. voice-verified

So he was a safety engineer at Meta, as you say he had that time off. voice-verified

And then he realized that things weren't good for his fourteen year old daughter. voice-verified

So just tell me what was happening to her. voice-verified

Okay, so he then really concerned, of course, about what his daughter is subjected to online, he returns to the company and he says he did raise these concerns directly with the Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg in 2021. voice-verified

And Turu, he is now central to this trial in California, where a jury will decide whether Meta is guilty of harming children with technology designed to be addictive. voice-verified

Addictive like cigarettes. voice-verified

Now he was the first to give evidence, wasn't he? voice-verified

Just tell me about that. voice-verified

Hm and the Californian Attorney General Rob Bonta, he's actually leading the case against Meta. voice-verified

He spoke outside the court voice-verified

Well, Dara, let's just step back a moment and consider how this case came about and what the complainants are hoping to achieve. voice-verified

Now there are four lead states in this case, aren't there? voice-verified

And well, billions of dollars at stake. voice-verified

dollars in penalties. voice-verified

And as I understand that the attorney generals of these states, they'll use internal documents and interviews with current and former staff to show that Meta discussed voice-verified

compulsive use of its platforms and how various tools actually contributed to voice-verified

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