Sam Hawley

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5,774 appearances 143 recordings 4 series first heard Jan 2026 last heard today

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ABC News Daily · Is this Mark Zuckerberg's 'big tobacco' moment? · 25 Aug 2026 podcast

So tell me then will Mark Zuckerberg himself, Meta's CEO, face questioning during this trial? voice-verified

And what does Meta have to say about these allegations? voice-verified

Interesting. voice-verified

Okay. voice-verified

And it's worth noting, as you say, there have been a range of lawsuits of this nature. voice-verified

In March, a woman known as Kaylee, she was actually awarded eight million Australian dollars in damages. voice-verified

platforms. voice-verified

So there has been success in the courts, hasn't there? voice-verified

Just tell me about that case. voice-verified

Well this trial is being referred to as the tech industry's big tobacco moment. voice-verified

What do you think though? voice-verified

Do you think this could be a pivotal moment for change? voice-verified

Well, Dara, of course this is a case in the United States. voice-verified

But it could could it not open the way for similar legal action around the world, including in in Australia. voice-verified

I mean, there's users everywhere who could argue they have been deeply damaged by these algorithms. voice-verified

They've become addicted. voice-verified

To social media, to things like Facebook and Instagram. voice-verified

And so when do we expect to have a result then? voice-verified

Derek Herr is a tech reporter with The Guardian. voice-verified

This episode was produced by Ilaria Brofi and Louise Milan. voice-verified

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