Sam Hinkie

But if what you really want to do is...

go start your own thing or grow in these other areas or be known for excellence in this way, I have to find opportunities for you to take steps toward that.

Because I can either fight against your nature.

It's a sort of long hill version.

Again, I can fight against your nature and get you to hold your breath and suck it up and do anything.

But the moment you get freedom,

The moment you make money, the moment you have better job alternatives.

I think of it the same way with teenagers.

The moment they get out of your house, it's got to be like this.

Yep.

Then they went to college.

Now what?

They got out of college.

They've got their own money.

Now what?

Now what are you going to do?

Turns out they're going to reject a bunch of that and sort of plop back into their original shape and do the kinds of things that bring them meaning.

Get on that train or not, because the leverage just switched in a whole bunch of ways.

How do you suss out that alignment when dealing with founders specifically that you're meeting and getting to know to make sure that the thing that they really want to do is this thing that they're building in this company?

Breadcrumbs in the past help a lot.