Sam Kamani

Yeah.

So it's like, let's say, let someone is new to DeFi.

Can you give an example and explain with an example, the leverage staking strategy?

So let's say they've got like, say, just say two ETH.

What would, how the process would look like?

How would it, where would they start with staking, then restaking, then doing leverage or yeah, explain it as you wish.

Yes, yes, that's right.

Yes.

The problem with that is I haven't seen yield at Aave recently, but it was often around 2%, 3%.

And the borrowing you do is often at more than that.

So you end up, and then there is transaction costs, all that.

So you could end up losing money at every loop.

And so it is 100%.

It's not advisable for someone new just dipping their toes into getting anything like that.

Yeah, there's so many, so many moving parts to something like this that, yeah.

And same thing happens in the track firewall that this is where people get into, get into trouble and all that.

Yep.

And I had the question here on, you know, how you talked about earlier about incentives that you didn't incentivize to the like extreme levels or anything.

In your point of view, what incentives work the best for long-term sustainability?

Participation.