Sam Kamani

side, one side saying that, oh, you could just wipe code and you like, if you see this, the, the pricing or the valuation of all the SaaS products have drastically come down in the last 18 months.

And so there's a whole view that, oh, you don't need all these SaaS products.

Doesn't matter if it's Figma or whatever, like, um, because you can just use, uh, AI and create things, whether it's lawyer softwares or accounting or what, any, any, any niche.

And then on the other side, it's like, no, you cannot build these, vibe code a lot of these things.

And most businesses won't vibe code things.

And you will need the SaaS products for a very long time to come.

And so there is still a lot of value to be unlocked in those still.

Where do you guys stand on that point of view?

Yeah, I think... I think...

Yes, yes, absolutely.

Agree.

What about for CMT Digital internally?

Where do you guys use AI?

And have you guys canceled any SaaS product subscriptions in the last, say, 12 to 18 months?

That is generally the case for most people.

They're paying for more.

Whenever the technology becomes more accessible, we need more.

And that's why we'll need more developers.

We'll need more builders.

Yeah, that's fantastic.