Sam Kamani

Yes.

That's very interesting.

I'll share something on the builder side of things because I talk with so many of them and I'm in part of like few different Discord groups, which are like private Discord groups of just us friends who are building in AI, Web3, crypto, all this space.

And it is very...

There is a lot of anxiety at the moment.

You know, some of them are not even going to gym or sacrificing their time of everything else because AI is already blockchain was moving fast.

And then on top of that, AI moves so fast and you build something today.

And in a week, it feels like it is not needed.

It's outdated.

You can directly do it straight on cloud or open AI wherever directly on the platform or the whole space has changed in three weeks.

So you don't know, it feels like you are chasing something that is moving so much faster than you.

Yeah, I don't know.

Have you seen that?

And how do founders and builders overcome that sort of feeling that they're fighting a losing battle at the moment?

Yeah, absolutely.

And also there are like two lines of thought in this industry.

Maybe you can help me identify which one is true.

So one side says that, you know, in startup world,

B2B SaaS products used to be like bread and butter of a lot of VCs as well as investors and a lot of founders used to build in that because it was easy to monetize and you build a B2B SaaS product that is sold to medium-sized businesses or something like that.

But then now there is the other