Sam Parr

worried to feel like they're on a safe path.

And safe is usually economic, but it's also, it's just risk feels like your risk.

And I love the story of what your parents did.

And I've got a few anecdotes I've found since we finished the book that are great, that are very similar to what your parents did.

But I think it's the exception.

I don't think it's the rule.

I think a lot of parents would have

tried to convince you to finish out and get your degree i think that's built into to most uh parents and and so there are other people other than myself that that have highlighted that the i'd call it like this industrial college matriculation path has gotten very rigid and

And it's competitive and it's grindy.

Like getting into college now is significantly harder.

Yeah, they've not expanded the enrollment at these schools, but the number of people that want to go to college has gone way up.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

And starting around sixth grade, once again, well-intentioned parents start building the resume to get into college.

And so...

We overschedule children today compared to when I was young.

For sure.

And so they're scheduled from when they wake up to when they go to bed.

There's actually a chapter in Jonathan Haidt's book, Coddling of the American Mind, called The Decline of Play, where we've just... It's harder, I think, for a child to explore and try on different ideas because they're caught up in this game to try and get into college.

You had this crazy stat.