Sam Parr

So this was work that Keith Holyoke had done at UCLA.

And it relates to a lot of the concepts in the back of range, the book by David Epstein.

But it was the people at the top of their field are like much more likely to have a breadth of hobbies, speak more languages, do more things.

And, and,

almost, I think, have a lens on the world that's broader because they were able to try so many different things.

I think that's the right pathway.

I do think you want to get started in an area where you can differentiate yourself.

And many...

In both the principal chapter on mentors and peers in here, and even in the learning principle, I recommend, you know, as a more advanced level, once you get, you know, up to this level, then go broader, like start to learn outside your field, find mentors and peers outside your field, and you'll get pulled in more innovative ways.

So tell me more about that.

Well, I think what Keith's work highlighted was that some of the people that are able to reach the top of their field are able to draw on mental models from a variety of different places.

And we're a hyper-specialist.

And David Epstein's book, Reigns, is all about this specialist versus broad thing.

Like, that's really the whole point of the book.

And he quotes Holyoke as well, but

Many different innovations in science have come from people who repotted from one place to another, chemists who becomes a physicist.

The person who's a lifelong physicist has mental models that are pretty rigid at that point in time because that's all they know.

And so...

once again i think this is an advanced skill i don't i think after you're succeeding you start to do this i don't think it's the pathway to the beginning of success because i think you'd just be too broad but some of the smartest people i know could like like one person profile in the book is danny meyer the grass great grass front tour we were asking him about his mentors and one of the mentors that influenced him the most isn't from the restaurant industry

And so it is a more advanced skill, but it is where you will... Look, the whole goal, I think, is to differentiate yourself along the pathway.