Sam Parr

And that is a great way, more advanced way, but a great way to take yourself places you wouldn't have thought of.

I think the way you describe it is right.

Like everyone talks about mentors and no one talks about peers.

So I do have a chapter on mentors and I offer a ton of very practical advice about how to play that correctly.

But the peer thing, the idea is that when you get on that first rung of the ladder and you're trying to climb it,

If you could develop a friend group, it might be four, it might be six that are also on that same journey.

And hopefully, I think outside your organization, I think you could start maybe with one person in your org.

But for all the reasons we just talked about, how breadth of knowledge might give you insights you wouldn't have.

If they're outside your org, they're going to see different cultures.

They're going to see different management structures.

They're going to bring a different perspective.

viewpoint to you that you wouldn't have had if they were inside um and then with today's modern tools you know created create if you're adventurous create a slack channel if you're if you just want to do a whatsapp group or a signal group and share you know share your learnings along the way when i moved to san francisco for airbnb it um

Yeah, and I think if there are people that are sharp-elbowed or climbers that step on other people, you kick them out.

I think you need like-minded people who are equally gracious to one another.

Who is in your group now that's a big shot now?

Well, we...

One thing I've, I've, I've discovered lately is setting up different like WhatsApp or signal groups for different topics.

I think for someone coming in early into a career, it's better to have people that are on that exact journey.

And I'm not in that place anymore.

I have a company called Hampton.