Samuel Moyn

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Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar · 7/23/26: War Historically Unpopular, AI Hack Meltdown, Old People Debate · 24 Jul 2026 podcast

But to go back to Stuart Hall, it's like saying white supremacy isn't real, doesn't account for why the class structure is the way it is.

Of course it does.

And the same is true of age.

It's not accidental that so much wealth is controlled by older Americans.

Now, you're right that

If we want to create solidarity, we can't create an age antagonism any more than we can create a race antagonism.

I'm not arguing for either.

I'm arguing for saying to take class seriously, we have to take age seriously.

seriously, just like we have to take race seriously.

I agree with you.

But that, that,

it's not clear what force that has because every form of discrimination will have its own history.

That's like saying, you know, patriarchy isn't real because it's different from white supremacy.

It also can't be argued, I think, that the only kinds of unfairness that are real are old kinds.

That's clearly false.

And it's true that this is a new kind of discrimination because the situation of older people

mainly through the extension of life and the fact that they're still around in much greater numbers, and thankfully so, has changed the score in American class.

And so, you know, with all due respect, I think we have to take each kind of discrimination on its own terms while also recognizing that

that class is made up of a lot of different kinds of factors.

Yeah, so I liked Russ's piece.

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