Sana Khadar

Because when Brian Johnson talks about wanting to live forever, is he actually talking about his body being around for a long time?

Or are we talking about his brain eventually being uploaded to the cloud kind of thing?

Tell me about the different camps in the immortality space.

But his mantra and his, like, movement is called Don't Die.

Yeah, I know.

Is his ultimate goal to stay the same age forever or just, yeah, I suppose as long as possible?

This concept of keeping a biological age down for as long as possible in order to reap the benefits of these potential advances is called the longevity escape velocity.

Okay, so there's the biohacker types like Brian Johnson, trying to preserve their minds and bodies for as long as possible.

Then you have the technologists.

They also have a lot of faith in technology, faith being the operative word.

You'll understand why as we keep talking.

And why is that a fundamental must and responsibility?

Yeah, like so much of this feels like a colossal exercise in missing the point.

But also the transhumanist angle to this.

Is that like a fringe thing or is that what Silicon Valley is predominantly like thinking?

Explain how dominant these ideas are.

Yeah.

Yeah, because I can't help but think like...

Surely they don't mean this for everybody, because if everyone lives forever, whether that's uploaded to the cloud or just more decades than we do now, can the planet sustain food systems to feed everyone?

Can it provide the energy needed to sustain all of this?