Sarah B. Rogers

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg · Under Secretary of State Sarah B. Rogers on dismantling the "Censorship Industrial Complex" · 22 Jan 2026 podcast

And the way some people defined these was misinformation is false and disinformation is bad.

And if disinformation pollutes your democracy, the wrong candidate might win, I think is really the impulse.

But we had information suppressed under auspices of combating disinformation that turned out to be true.

So things that were suppressed included the assertion that the vaccine did not completely prevent transmission.

That turned out to be true.

It mitigated transmission significantly, but it was not a sterilizing vaccine.

And another thing that was suppressed was the assessment that the virus might have leaked from a lab.

And we now know that was the same assessment of a House committee and the CIA.

So the government thinks the virus, they're not sure, but it might have leaked from a lab, more likely than not.

And you're reaching out to Twitter, to Facebook, to Instagram, saying, hey, you know, we can't force you to take these posts down under the First Amendment, but we'd really appreciate if you did.

And if you want to stay in our good graces, you should.

I mean, it's a great question, but it's a question we don't even need to ask because we know the answer, and the answer is yes.

So we have emails that have leaked from some of these NGOs.

So one of them, the Center for Countering Digital Hate, which is a British NGO whose leader was the target of some of our visa sanctions.

There are emails exchanged with Democratic politicians in the United States and with politicians now very close to Keir Stormer saying, our number one priority should be to kill Musk's Twitter, so kill an American company, right?

in order to suppress American political speech, and our second priority is to instigate UK and EU regulatory action.

So this is an entity taking government money to get foreign governments to come after American businesses.

And this whole fact pattern where these American NGOs were working with the American government to send kind of forceful, they allege not technically coercive emails to Twitter and Meta, that was an attempt by these activists to replicate sort of the EU DSA in a way that would kind of dodge the American First Amendment.

So the EU DSA requires that member states designate NGOs as so-called trusted flaggers, meaning

This organization, its job is to sit on Twitter, look for offending tweets that might be hateful or whatever, and report them to Twitter.

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