Sarah Carey

And they might go to Fine Gael in one election.

Then they go to Labour.

They went to Greens in 2019.

And are they going to go to the Sock Dems now in 29?

And it's where that cohort were.

Yeah, but let's remember they haven't been given the chance to govern because they cannot get transparency.

The voters haven't gotten behind them because, and we saw it in Dublin Central, they cannot pick up transfers because there are too many other voters who say they don't want them.

Look, Fianna Fáil have 48 seats, Fine Gael have 38.

That was people who voted for those parties and would not transfer to Sinn Féin because they didn't want power.

Yeah, he's saying that they're following.

I do a lot of work around Holocaust memorial, which is why I'm so hot on the subject of anti-Semitism.

He was a child in Bergen-Belsen and I remember interviewing him at the National Art Gallery at an event a few years ago with Oliver Sears and he was describing

Being a child in the camp and that they would play hide and seek around the stacks of corpses that were in the camp and that guard threw a crust of bread between all the kids one day and the children were fighting over this crust of bread.

Like...

You know, to have a survivor sit there and describe to you what was done back then.

And that's why a lot of Jews are so concerned that as that generation literally dies off, who is going to be around to remind people of what was done to Jews?

And why Israel exists.

So I'm just so sorry for his wife, Joyce.

You know, I've met them at so many Holocaust related events.

He was such a fighter.