Sarah Hagi

I get scam texts like this all the time, and I don't think about them twice. But to learn about the whole cycle of harm behind that and that the bigger victim is likely the person who's texting me, I was really shocked.

I get scam texts like this all the time, and I don't think about them twice. But to learn about the whole cycle of harm behind that and that the bigger victim is likely the person who's texting me, I was really shocked.

I'm getting a scam call right now. Are you really? So funny. Yeah, I just had to decline it. Actually, I do want to talk a little bit more about these scams because I feel like most of us know enough to see a weird link and identify it immediately like this is a scam. So we ignore them. And I feel like it gives people the sense that these scams are too silly to actually work.

I'm getting a scam call right now. Are you really? So funny. Yeah, I just had to decline it. Actually, I do want to talk a little bit more about these scams because I feel like most of us know enough to see a weird link and identify it immediately like this is a scam. So we ignore them. And I feel like it gives people the sense that these scams are too silly to actually work.

But as you found out, they really do. These companies bring in billions of dollars worldwide. So could you just walk us through why and how do these scams work?

But as you found out, they really do. These companies bring in billions of dollars worldwide. So could you just walk us through why and how do these scams work?

You know, mentioning these people knowing personal details about someone's life to know exactly how to target them. How are they finding out if someone is wealthy or if someone's lonely? There's so many of these personal details that I would love to know how they know.

You know, mentioning these people knowing personal details about someone's life to know exactly how to target them. How are they finding out if someone is wealthy or if someone's lonely? There's so many of these personal details that I would love to know how they know.

Wow. I feel like people don't know that they're researching you as a real person and not just getting someone's number. That's crazy. Yeah.

Wow. I feel like people don't know that they're researching you as a real person and not just getting someone's number. That's crazy. Yeah.

Wow. I mean, I guess I'm wondering what you think the reason was for Charlie to agree to work with Dev and the syndicate instead of, you know, just going to law enforcement at the very beginning of finding everything out.

Wow. I mean, I guess I'm wondering what you think the reason was for Charlie to agree to work with Dev and the syndicate instead of, you know, just going to law enforcement at the very beginning of finding everything out.

One of the things that did really hit me was the idea of feeling so much shame to be a part of a scam and to be scammed. And it's something that we see a lot on our show. And in episode six, you know, Jane said she hadn't told her siblings where she'd been for more than a month after getting out of the scam factory, which was so sad. Yeah.

One of the things that did really hit me was the idea of feeling so much shame to be a part of a scam and to be scammed. And it's something that we see a lot on our show. And in episode six, you know, Jane said she hadn't told her siblings where she'd been for more than a month after getting out of the scam factory, which was so sad. Yeah.

So learning about the scale of these scam compounds and after hearing about, you know, this very harrowing ordeal everyone in the series had to go through just to get out, I think we're really curious to know where are things now since reporting the story and what are the updates you're learning about the whole operation? Yeah.

So learning about the scale of these scam compounds and after hearing about, you know, this very harrowing ordeal everyone in the series had to go through just to get out, I think we're really curious to know where are things now since reporting the story and what are the updates you're learning about the whole operation? Yeah.

I mean, that's incredible. Like, is this just kind of the first big step for them to be eradicated?

I mean, that's incredible. Like, is this just kind of the first big step for them to be eradicated?

I mean, another huge question is, where are the siblings? Like, how are they doing after all of this?

I mean, another huge question is, where are the siblings? Like, how are they doing after all of this?