Sarah Jakes Roberts

Like who, what happens in those situations?

That we, we both win.

We have to, if there's something big, we have to both agree about the decision that we're going to take or we don't do it at all.

Oh, I like that role.

Yeah.

Yes.

The smaller things, it's kind of like, hey, I think that's going to be a loss, but that's up to you.

You know what I mean?

It's your L to take or we'll take the L together.

You know what I mean?

But while we're taking the L, I won't be telling you, hey, we didn't have to take this L. But the big things, we have to be on the same page about.

It's a good role.

I don't know if I think about that much at all, to be honest.

Oh, that's interesting.

Yeah, I don't think about how to make it mine.

I just am me and I bring me to it.

And whatever happens from that place happens from that place.

But I think that, you know, I've grown up in this shadow my entire life.

And I think that there were moments where I was like, I'm going to be myself.

I'm going to have distinction and I'm going to force myself to have a carve out.