Sarah McBride
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first heard Jun 2025
last heard Jun 2025
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It's all the same movement.
But two, I think in those early days after marriage, a lot of people
regretted having been wrong on marriage in the 90s and in the 2000s.
And they went, you know, I didn't understand what it meant to be gay and therefore I didn't support marriage.
And I regret not supporting something because I didn't understand it.
So I'm going to, without understanding, support trans rights because I don't want to make that same mistake again.
And I think that resulted in a lot of us, a lot of our movement,
stopping the conversation and ceasing doing the hard work of opening hearts and changing minds and telling stories that over 20 years had shifted and deepened understanding on gay identities that allowed for marriage equality to be built on solid ground.
And I think that that allowed for the misinformation, the disinformation, that well-coordinated, well-funded campaign to really take advantage of that lack of understanding.
And the support on trans rights was sort of a house built on sand.
I think that that's an accurate...
reflection of sort of the overplaying of the hand in some ways that we as a sort of coalition went to trans 201, trans 301, when people were still at a very much trans 101 stage one.
And then two, I think there were requests that people perceived as sort of cultural aggression, which then allowed the right to say, we're punishing trans people
because of their actions rather than we're going after innocent bystanders.
And I think some of the sort of cultural mores and norms that started to develop around inclusion of trans people were probably premature for a lot of people.
We became absolutist, not just on trans rights, I think across the sort of progressive movement, we became absolutist.
And we forgot that in a democracy, we have to, one, grapple with where the public authentically is and actually engage with it.
And I think, you know, and part of this is fostered by social media.
We sort of decided that...
We now have to say and fight for and push for every single perfect policy and cultural norm right now, regardless of whether the public is ready.
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