Sarah McBride
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567 appearances
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first heard Jun 2025
last heard Jun 2025
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And I think it misunderstands the role that politicians and, frankly, social movements have in maintaining proximity to public opinion, of walking people to a place—
We should be ahead of public opinion, but we have to be within arm's reach.
If we get too far out ahead, we lose our grip on public opinion and we can no longer bring it with us.
And I think a lot of the conversations around sports and also some of the sort of cultural changes that we saw in expected workplace behavior, et cetera, was the byproduct of maybe just getting too far out ahead and not actually engaging in the art of social change making.
Well, first off, I think you're right.
It is understandable.
I mean, this is a scary moment.
I'm scared.
As a trans person, I am scared.
And I recognize that when the house is on fire, when there are attacks that are dangerous, very dangerous, that it can feel like...
We need to scream and we need to sound the alarm and we need everyone to be doing exactly that.
I get that instinct.
I understand that people would say, if you give a little bit here, they'll take a mile.
We're not negotiating with the other side, though.
In this moment, we have to negotiate with public opinion.
And we shouldn't treat the public like they're Republican politicians.
And when you recognize that distinction, I think it allows for a pragmatic approach that has the best, in my mind, the best possible chance of shifting public opinion as quickly as possible.
It would be one thing if screaming about how dangerous this is right now had the effect of stopping these attacks.
But it won't.
I think that that's absolutely right.
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