Sarah Paine

You want to color it in.

And that's where Ukraine comes in in 2022.

So Putin wants to reverse all these territorial losses.

He wants the green things and the purple things.

I don't know if he wants to do the Napoleonic Wars, I suppose, go all the way to Paris.

Who knows?

And here's how he looks at NATO, or doesn't look at it.

NATO, you can look at when people join.

There are two great big periods of accession to NATO.

One is in the early Cold War, when all the smaller countries of Europe, which is everybody, right?

We're all smaller than Russia.

But the Europeans joined to protect themselves from Soviet imperialism.

And then at the end of the Cold War, when these Soviet satellites can finally slip the leash, I've given you all the reasons why, they stampede into NATO.

It is not NATO tricking them to join.

They're stampeding in for excellent reasons.

They've been proven right.

And then with Putin, when he works his magic the second time around in Ukraine in 2022, this is when the Finns and the Swedes decide neutrality's not going to cut it.

We've got to join NATO.

But when Putin looks at this, he goes, oh, they're coming at us in arcs.

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