Sarah Wang

relentless pursuit of ground truth and also, you know, self-improvement, right?

I think like you're the first to admit, hey, here are the areas we could be better on.

We're trying to improve on a continuous basis.

But how do you internally think about what benchmarks matter?

What is ground truth for you guys in terms of like, hey, we're actually better on this front, but worse on this front?

So you predicted that agentic search will be a bigger business than Google search by the 2030s.

Say more about that.

What trends are you seeing that lead you to believe this?

Will eat all software?

What do you think, and there's some debate on the LLM side, on the training side too, but what do you think is the bottleneck today versus, let's say, three years from now?

I feel like five years is too far to predict.

I think you've said in the past it's no longer intelligence in terms of bottlenecking search.

Is it data, accessible data?

How do you think about how that evolves?

Right, right, right, right.

Well, actually, I was going to say, at least thinking about when we're living on Mars or whatnot, there's probably one other founder that has thought about that extensively, Elon.

And, you know, I listened to your, when you went on the Latent Space podcast last year, one of my favorite podcasts, and you talked about actually working at SpaceX.

How was that experience?

And, like, are there elements of Elon's leadership style that you've taken as, you know, CEO of your own company?

So I just totally divergent, but on the topic of names, one, I love goat.