Sarah Wilson

Australia, until recently, experienced more than three decades of uninterrupted economic growth, apart from a small blip during COVID.

And we don't have the language for it.

We don't have the leadership to discuss these kinds of things.

Yeah, I do.

I certainly sense it amongst everyday people.

So I wrote this book, my most recent book, Eye at the Stars, as a serialisation on Substack.

It's an international writer's platform.

I had a lot of Australian subscribers and they get it.

I've come to Australia and I've done all kinds of events and, you know, been speaking with everyday Australians and they understand these things and they're feeling the same way I have, and that is that there's not enough discussion out there in the public.

People are having these discussions at barbecues and over at the dinner table, but...

There's no leadership.

There's no sort of forum for this kind of thing.

And I've found this before.

You know, my books have tended to tackle subjects that the Australian, I guess, landscape hasn't wanted to embrace.

You know, it was sugar, it was anxiety, it was the climate crisis.

But what I've found always is that everyday Australians are well ahead of the curve compared with the rest of the world.

It's just that the leadership ain't there.

It's quite behind.

Yeah, I mean, I think the neoliberal framework has tended to make individuals feel responsible for what's going on.

So when we take that on...