Scott Payne

because if one of those clubs supports the big one that you were in, then all it takes is one regional run or one rally, and somebody looks across there and goes, hey, that's that Fed.

And same thing on the extremist side.

Once you've been in for a while and you've actually made a good case and a lot of people went to jail, yeah, I mean, I don't know.

It's going to be tough because maybe we take down 12 people or 15 people or whatever.

Well, there might have been 60 people in that group.

Now, they didn't get arrested, but now they switched their moniker and now they're on to another group.

If you go from the base...

and we arrest a lot of people on the base then maybe they switch to green brigade or patriot front or whatever and but they may change their moniker but that's still the same person right so they'll still recognize your face right if they saw it yeah right so that's definitely tough um how often were these biker clubs like testing for undercovers like were they doing anything crazy there

Well, mine, I mean, you get vetted, I mean, coming in and out.

When you start meeting people, I mean, you're getting scrutinized.

I should say you're under scrutiny because nobody knows you and you're new.

And imagine the case I did, the big, long biker case I did, I listened to my accent.

It was in Massachusetts.

As soon as I show up in Massachusetts and start talking, they're like, where are you from and why are you here?

No, yeah, I guess.

I mean, I do mirror.

Once I hang out with somebody from Boston area for a couple of hours, I'll start talking just like them, but I wasn't trying to be different.

I'm still Scott, the JVL Country guy.

No, I did the Outlaws.

Okay.