Seamus Marten

I want to move into the building the business, the first one at 19.

But before then, like when someone shares their story and for the first time, it's so captivating.

Like I've just been sitting here listening and you haven't shared it that much, right?

Like publicly.

When you reflect on, like, how do you sum up your childhood?

Like, do you look back on it?

Like, yeah.

What do you describe when you look back on your childhood?

You were dealing what you were dealing with, but without the tools to deal with them, right?

Which, as we build in the second half, we're going to talk about you sort of step into the leadership and helping others, which makes you so perfectly placed because you can see how hard it is when you're trying to navigate this confusing world and you've got no perspective.

So take us to 19 because this is the first sort of business you build which...

gets you into a bit of trouble and I think there's ego involved and what's happened here?

Yeah.

We'll be right back after this short break.

So you're working for 18 months to pay back the debt you've accrued from this sort of disaster.

Yeah.

And then how does that lead into going again?

Like you get out of debt, you get your head above and then you think from the lessons I've learned, I'm actually in a place to go again?

I spoke to your coach, Rhonda, who we're going to introduce a little bit later.

But she said your woo was your highest out of the Clifton strengths.