Sean Callagy

No non-recourse, no collateral to speak of.

So we love movies, we love the power of story, but what you're hearing from David right now is how critically important it is to understand money and value.

Yeah.

And the innovative...

mastery of all the different ways to share and look at value and if we're uncomfortable at these diverse areas of mastery we're not going to achieve the things which is as a footnote for everybody if that's not your mastery you're not david you're not not only harvard mba harvard and harvard didn't make david

Harvard, I'm sure, taught David some things, but this is a man who developed the muscle, the skill of discerning value, being creative, which you're going to ask some questions about how and why, but while it's not David yet in your pocket, Athena, everybody out here,

you can certainly masterfully up-level where you are to begin to think of like, hey, if I was David Maisel and I'm looking at this thing through the prism of Marvel, what are 10 different ways I could assess this ecosystem merger to create unique shares of value if these people don't want to write a check and I really want this to happen?

Or if they should write a check and they're not seeing it, how can we communicate about it?

Use the tools that way.

Is that landing?

If it is, say yes?

Yes.

Okay.

So back to you, David.

What I'd love to get to in a few minutes, if you wouldn't mind, is a powerful question about all of this.

I'd love you to finish this point, but about how much you might be undervaluing yourself in some of this, because something dawned on me.

And let me go to it, and then we can go back if we need to.

It's this.

So you took this property,

what you saw to be a potential cinematic universe.