Sean Callagy

But I wonder, and has anybody ever asked this question, could you have taken any number of properties and done this?

How much of this was your mastery

as visionary of the complete cinematic universe and what you then did once you made that decision.

Like, we're gonna take this and make it a cinematic universe because Tony Stark in the Iron Man comics wasn't Robert Downey Jr.

You did that.

And I didn't think, the last time we spoke, and I think- And Robert.

And Robert, right?

And Robert.

Right.

And Pepper wasn't, Gwyneth Paltrow, right?

And I know you're an incredibly humble man, and I think you're at times a falsely modest man, meaning you diminish your accomplishments, but it just dawned on me.

Yeah, that was really interesting, but it was so interesting that it was in bankruptcy, the Marvel property.

And Sean knows there's an article right outside my office from the New York Times in 2007, a year before Iron Man came out, talking about all the reasons Marvel Studios would fail.

And so I leave that right by my office to remind me of that era.

In fact, I announced Marvel Studios on CNBC in 2004, and our stock went down for four years.

How long?

Four years.

How long?

Four years.

How long?