Sebastian Junger

And the...

The conventional understanding is that he was dishonored by Agamemnon in some way that I can't remember.

And he couldn't – after the trauma of combat and the siege of Troy and he lost his best friend, et cetera, et cetera, he couldn't stand the dishonor.

He had PTSD, right, in sort of contemporary terms.

And he threw himself on his sword.

And I sort of looked into the story a little bit because it didn't quite – I was like, wow, that's a lot of honor, right?

I mean that's like – he had a family.

He had children.

That's – why would you – so –

What it turned out was that he had he was walking on a hillside and he in his mind, he thought he was attacked by the enemy.

And he drew his sword and he killed them all.

And then he realized he had killed a herd of sheep.

Whoa.

In his trauma, he had mistaken sheep for the enemy.

And I have no proof of this.

I've never heard, you know, whatever, like I'll stand down if I'm wrong.

But it occurred to me.

That what he thought at that moment was, if I can kill a herd of sheep because I think they're Trojans, my family's not safe.

No one's safe.

No one's safe.