Sebastian Junger

I mean, what the Ukrainians, I mean, all the politics and whatever aside, just on a military level, what the Ukrainians were able to do, you know, quite outmatched by the Russians, what the Taliban were able to do with the U.S., the Mujahideen against the Russians, all of this, like what the Ukrainians were able to do against the Russians is quite extraordinary.

The Russians really should have taken Ukraine in a few weeks, right?

And had they...

That would have been – that was what everyone predicted.

I didn't think that was going to happen.

But that was what everyone predicted.

It didn't happen.

And the motivation to defend your home is always far greater than the motivation to invade someone else's home.

Just for the 19-year-old male, like the – and motivation is – as you know, I'm sure from MMA, is like super important in outcome, right?

And –

But had the Russians done it, had they just blitzkrieged all the way through Ukraine, seized it, then what they would have had is the huge, huge and costly problem of maintaining order in a nation of 40 million people.

40 million resentful people who did not want to be governed by outsiders.

Like, don't try this at home, right?

And so I think, yeah, so you can take out – say you had a magic electromagnetic pulse that took out everything in the – I mean I'm just bullshitting here.

It took out everything that the U.S.

military relies on to communicate and to function.

You just zapped it out of existence.

and invade it, right?

The Russians took east of the Mississippi, the Chinese took west of the Mississippi, or whatever it might be.

Then you've got to run this place.