Sebastian Mallaby
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first heard Apr 2026
last heard 3 Apr
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Google didn't want to do another one.
And really, DeepMind's project, Project Mario, was to try and force them to do more by threatening to walk out if they didn't.
Good question.
I don't know the answer.
Sorry.
You know, it's attrition.
Sundar Pichai, his personality and his management style comes out quite interestingly in this whole story because, you know, right at the beginning in 2015 when, you know, the first safety and ethics oversight board fails, the next idea that Demis has for how to get some independence and control of the technology is to become a bet as in an alpha bet when they were spitting out Waymo and
some of the other side bets they had.
And Larry Page was cool with this, and he was CEO at the time.
But then right as these discussions were going on, he handed over to Sundar.
And Sundar kind of pretended to say, oh, yeah, absolutely, great idea, we should look into it.
But really, he was just spinning them along and had no intention whatsoever of letting Demis spin out because he recognized him as the AI talent that Google was going to need in the future.
And so essentially there was this long drawn out, you know, delays here and we should just look at some more details.
And here's another term sheet.
And I was given some of these term sheets.
They're like huge, great documents with red lines all over them where, you know, one team of lawyers had come back to the other team of lawyers.
And, you know, basically by 2019, everybody was exhausted.
It all fizzled out and they just moved on.
Well, you know, I'll give you sort of what I would regard as somewhere between probably true and unconfirmed rumor.
Is that all right?
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