Sebastian Siemiatkowski

It's different for a company like Klarna because in our case, to some degree, this is the operating system of the company.

And what we realized when we looked at SaaS and all these things already two years ago, which is why we started closing down SaaS for us was because we need to provide our AI the best context.

we need to provide as good context as possible to be able to perform a job and if your data is separated in these silos a little bit in this sass a little bit in that sass a little bit here here's all the project management stuff here's all the product definitions here is the accounting stuff here is this here's that it's just harder to provide the appropriate context right so to us it was like no we need to reimagine the tech stack

with AI first being AI native and incorporate AI and deterministic and probabilistic code into one text that it becomes the operating system of the bank.

And I think that that's like the future of larger enterprise.

And that's why to us, we're very mindful that we do still use some SaaS.

For sure, like we use Slack as an example today, which is a Salesforce company, right?

So that happens.

You should use Slash Work.

It's one of ours.

It's a compatible device.

Yeah, I'm happy to try it.

We incubated it.

So you see what I mean?

So it's just like for a large company, I think that like, obviously not everyone needs to reinvent everything.

I don't think the plumbing firm will reinvent it.

I don't think they're going to wipe code.

That's not the point.

I think they will buy something that looks like Cloudbot or company in a box kind of thing.

As I said, like if you are a plumbing company, maybe Claude will offer a solution for all of this, an anthropic, or maybe there will be somebody else who kind of uses Claude and empowers this kind of company in a box experience.