Selah Hirsch
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37 appearances
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first heard May 2025
last heard May 2025
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It's all good. It's all good. It's all good. We'll power talk. But that's great that he's into Master of the Clothes. I'm so proud of you for how you rolled that out. Can you believe that just launched a few months ago? You worked on that for so long, and you sat on that. You sat on that as a silent sleeper. I remember when I finally found that thing, I was like, wow. Ryan, what is this thing?
And you were like, Oh, it's just like this incredible proprietary sales process I developed. And it's just sitting over here off to the side that could help millions of people. And then look at you, like finally giving it to the world this year. I love it. Cheers to 2025.
Well, you had to fight to stay on that path too because it was one thing to stay on it. It's another thing to realize you're in a pruning season. I mean, I think that's what we talked about so many times is it was – What do I hold on to? What do I let go of here? And I watched you literally like separate Siamese twins, you know, with your bare knuckle fingers of this is what I wanted to.
But this is now what I feel like I need to hold on to and vice versa. Look at this new thing now that is emerging in the space. And so 24 was shaping. It was pruning it.
felt hard in our conversations, but I truly believe even how you're expressing where you are at this moment, that it was a much needed season, uh, just to, to prepare the ground for areas that you can really thrive in and that are ultimately like deep reflections of you, your brand, your story, and the work that you want to bring into the world.
Well, I think we need some like rocky background music right now because I feel like every entrepreneur who's listening to this is like, this is my life right here. I love how you said you need to get it beat up every now and then because that's what it feels like. It feels like a constant juggling act, juggling priorities, focus, deadlines, cash flow, systems, scalable growth.
I mean, it's like literally like a storm, a perfect storm at all times, especially if
this is a business owner or an entrepreneur and you can relate to that I mean the success that you've had with rogue risk you know with that with leading innovative companies like you do with developing products like Salesforce teams I mean just there is so much that you realize is a constant pressure point and and to your point I do believe that resilience is
is what we're talking about because you've come through this stronger. And that's why I'm like, we need some pump up Rocky music here. I feel like I've been able to kind of be like Mick here on the sides a little bit like, hey, what's going on? Okay, send you back out there. Come on, let's dial back up. Let's get our focus in. Now get back into the ring a little bit.
And everyone needs something like that. They need someone in their life where they can be like, hold on. I'm actually winning, but this match is still going here a little bit. And to your point, the win may be sometimes just surviving a little bit. I don't want to get too far into the boxing metaphor here. But I think at the end of the day, like you said, it's defining the win a little bit.
And sometimes it's holding space, staying the course, trusting the game plan. Other times it's probably not being afraid to take the risk. I think that's something I've watched you do is once you've acknowledged that you need to make a pivot or a change, you're like, let's go. Let's jump here.
And this is what I love that you brought out in your TEDx talk, is that you are not afraid to be vulnerable and realize that what is the success I'm chasing? And identifying it, is it actually the success that defines me? Am I defining it? Or am I letting status and the perceptions of society and what I think I should be doing and the expectations of others really model that success?
And at the end of the day, that is the unfulfilled life that you're talking about. I love this quote that you said. I listened so many times to your talk, but I got to tell you, the quote that you talked about, the everyday millions of people go to jobs that they hate and pursue the goals that they didn't choose because that's what they thought that they were supposed to do, I think rings so well.
True, because all of us can relate to that in one way or another. We can be so caught up drinking our own Kool-Aid or what we feel like our social media feed has fed us or what we see the success of another business owner or another colleague doing that we can realize we are chasing shiny objects all day long. And at the end of the day, we're going to fall off a cliff.
We've got to learn to do this better and do this right. I love how your story holds the space for both the ambition and the honesty to define success at a more authentic point.
I love it. I just let you go.
Well, I think that – let's unpack that for a second further because you talked about that in your TED Talk with that first point you brought up, which was reframing fear as the catalyst for action. And I think that that's what you're talking about here is you're realizing that we've got to strip back to our core what is driving us and reframing success.
I think the analogy that you shared, the story you just shared with your sons in baseball is a great example because, again, we're looking at success through the lens of – all the other factors in our lives that are telling us what the measure is. But that measure is such a fake. It's such a trap.
And I think that that is why I love when we were working on your talk and you were like, Selah, I've got this idea of the status trap. And there's just such a word. That's a gripping thought. I've asked myself, where have I been trapped in my life? I'm like a person who would be afraid to be trapped in something. I'm the person who likes the...
The aisle seat on the airplane, I'm like, I don't want to be next to the window and not able to jump out and get something when I want to and need to. I don't want to be reliant on somebody. I don't want to be stuck in an elevator. I don't want to be stuck with slow drivers. In fact, it's so funny. I got to tell you, the other day I was driving my kids to school.
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