Shaka Senghor

And that was like, whoa, you know, and it made me stop and pause and think about, well, why does this person really see me as my old self?

Right.

And just for context, I went to prison for a second degree homicide.

Um, and so to have someone who says that they love you, call you a murderer.

And then how do you, how do you, you know, evolve from that?

Right.

Um, and I remember when that, that experience happened and it did, it, it took it, it made that scale slide way up.

Right.

I'm like more shame at that point.

It's more like, Hey, this is a person that I'm, you know, tasked with protecting.

And if they really see me in this way, what does that say?

Right.

Yeah.

And then there's the subconscious things that happen when you're in culture, right?

I'm at work and I would just, we'd be in the sales cycle and they're like, yo, you killed that.

And I'm like, oh, you know what I mean?

So it's just like this subconscious thing will come up.

A works thing, like you did a good job, but using it.

Right, right.

And without them even being aware of like what that could signal or mean.