Shane Jones

But I also think across lots of different sports, they've got different missions.

For example, my most recent role at gymnastics was

was all about creating a really safe environment for young people around the country, and that was the real driving passion.

So I think all these jobs are different.

It really depends what the organisation is trying to do, exactly the same as a CEO of any business.

Yeah, look, it's a very, very dim prospect and low possibility that we're ever going to get into phase four.

The PM recently came back from Singapore, you can see.

that there's a strong prospect that they'll work with us to avoid that possibility.

Of course, we've got Labour and the various other banshees on the other side of the house trying to catastrophise it, but we wanted to show to the business and various other stakeholders that we've been proactive.

Well, in the event we do strike a dangerous patch, then we've got additional fuel in country that can be made available on a staggered managed basis.

So it gives the confidence to the lifeline of the economy, the users of diesel, that it's actually here.

But look, I have to stress, at no point have we ever been told by the importers that they're going to violate their statutory obligations.

that they are struggling to bring fuel to New Zealand.

They do remind us that the price is likely to climb, but we have a good reputation of paying our bills internationally.

We chew through about 58 million barrels of oil

per year up in the refineries they create about six million barrels even with a bit of degradation per day mate we're between 10 and 14 days worth of supply in terms of the capacity of the refineries that deal with the kiwis so yes there will be the shrill voices

people demanding that we reprise and duplicate the recklessness of COVID.

We're never ever going to do that.

We're not going to move people around.

We're not going to blight downtown Auckland with these COVID refugees that never ever move.