Shane Smith

And look, a fucking punk kid that came from nothing. So when you have employees, there is actually a Harvard thing where they say – There's a paradox where you hire somebody because you want someone to help you but they're not as good as you and you hire someone who's not as good as you and then you hire someone who's not as good as them. So then all this stuff and you have to do more work.

There's more hassles. Then you have a whole group of people reporting to you and this is exactly not how to run a business. And I even knew that going in. And then you hire – and you're exactly right. You hire all these people. All they need to do is be in the same room as you. Yeah. And then that's access. And once there's access, then you're exactly what you said. Then you deal with their issues.

There's more hassles. Then you have a whole group of people reporting to you and this is exactly not how to run a business. And I even knew that going in. And then you hire – and you're exactly right. You hire all these people. All they need to do is be in the same room as you. Yeah. And then that's access. And once there's access, then you're exactly what you said. Then you deal with their issues.

There's more hassles. Then you have a whole group of people reporting to you and this is exactly not how to run a business. And I even knew that going in. And then you hire – and you're exactly right. You hire all these people. All they need to do is be in the same room as you. Yeah. And then that's access. And once there's access, then you're exactly what you said. Then you deal with their issues.

And you deal with everything. Yeah.

And you deal with everything. Yeah.

And you deal with everything. Yeah.

It definitely got too big, and you're exactly right. Look, you're a wise dude because you keep it small. You're exactly right. After having learned what I've learned, we have a tiny little team that makes this thing, and it's super – It's like the early days of Vice where you're just making shit and talking to people and chopping it up and doing stuff and trying new shit out.

It definitely got too big, and you're exactly right. Look, you're a wise dude because you keep it small. You're exactly right. After having learned what I've learned, we have a tiny little team that makes this thing, and it's super – It's like the early days of Vice where you're just making shit and talking to people and chopping it up and doing stuff and trying new shit out.

It definitely got too big, and you're exactly right. Look, you're a wise dude because you keep it small. You're exactly right. After having learned what I've learned, we have a tiny little team that makes this thing, and it's super – It's like the early days of Vice where you're just making shit and talking to people and chopping it up and doing stuff and trying new shit out.

Well, one week it'll be like this and the other week it'll be like that and we'll just fucking do everything. It's so much more fucking fun. You're 100% right.

Well, one week it'll be like this and the other week it'll be like that and we'll just fucking do everything. It's so much more fucking fun. You're 100% right.

Well, one week it'll be like this and the other week it'll be like that and we'll just fucking do everything. It's so much more fucking fun. You're 100% right.

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I'll go a step further than that. Is you, you, I don't know about you, but you accumulate shit, right? And I, cause I never had anything. I was like, I fucking, I got into watches. You know, I got into shit. I got into art. Then I got like, I don't even fucking drive. And I got like, I got Johnny Cash's fucking car from 1969. What kind of car is that?