Shane Smith

And, you know, I had kids and I was like, okay, like I can move to the country and commute into New York or I can move to L.A. So I moved to L.A. and that started a whole – that was not smart in retrospect because you leave and it starts like Game of Thrones shit. And then also, quite frankly, if you want to know the metaphysical fucking reasons why, I can get into it. Okay. All right.

I love metaphysical reasons. There you go. Yeah. The best time for Vice, the time that you're talking about, the time that I loved was you would go – before all the big investors and everything, you would go to like Italy, right? And you would get an apartment and you get a girlfriend and you find an office and you hire people that look like you or hang out like you or just are cool or whatever.

I love metaphysical reasons. There you go. Yeah. The best time for Vice, the time that you're talking about, the time that I loved was you would go – before all the big investors and everything, you would go to like Italy, right? And you would get an apartment and you get a girlfriend and you find an office and you hire people that look like you or hang out like you or just are cool or whatever.

I love metaphysical reasons. There you go. Yeah. The best time for Vice, the time that you're talking about, the time that I loved was you would go – before all the big investors and everything, you would go to like Italy, right? And you would get an apartment and you get a girlfriend and you find an office and you hire people that look like you or hang out like you or just are cool or whatever.

And – You would build it. You would buy the fucking computers on your credit card and you would fucking go to the grandmother's place for fucking lunch in Cinque Terre. You would like fucking, you know, figure out all the cool places to hang out with you with your friends and stuff. And then you'd have a big party and everyone would come and advice would be launched.

And – You would build it. You would buy the fucking computers on your credit card and you would fucking go to the grandmother's place for fucking lunch in Cinque Terre. You would like fucking, you know, figure out all the cool places to hang out with you with your friends and stuff. And then you'd have a big party and everyone would come and advice would be launched.

And – You would build it. You would buy the fucking computers on your credit card and you would fucking go to the grandmother's place for fucking lunch in Cinque Terre. You would like fucking, you know, figure out all the cool places to hang out with you with your friends and stuff. And then you'd have a big party and everyone would come and advice would be launched.

Then you get on a train and go to Sweden and do the same thing. You'd live there for six months. You'd build something. It was tangible. The mag would come out. You'd start shooting stuff and it would be fucking awesome. And then when it got to be like... you fly in and you meet with lawyers and accountants and it's shit, and then you fly out again the next day, it's terrible, right?

Then you get on a train and go to Sweden and do the same thing. You'd live there for six months. You'd build something. It was tangible. The mag would come out. You'd start shooting stuff and it would be fucking awesome. And then when it got to be like... you fly in and you meet with lawyers and accountants and it's shit, and then you fly out again the next day, it's terrible, right?

Then you get on a train and go to Sweden and do the same thing. You'd live there for six months. You'd build something. It was tangible. The mag would come out. You'd start shooting stuff and it would be fucking awesome. And then when it got to be like... you fly in and you meet with lawyers and accountants and it's shit, and then you fly out again the next day, it's terrible, right?

And so when that happened, I was like, I don't wanna do this anymore. And I'm not good at it. I was good at building. I'm good at building. Founders are not necessarily operators. One of the smart things you've done is just keep your own shit your own shit.

And so when that happened, I was like, I don't wanna do this anymore. And I'm not good at it. I was good at building. I'm good at building. Founders are not necessarily operators. One of the smart things you've done is just keep your own shit your own shit.

And so when that happened, I was like, I don't wanna do this anymore. And I'm not good at it. I was good at building. I'm good at building. Founders are not necessarily operators. One of the smart things you've done is just keep your own shit your own shit.

Yeah, smart. You know, Harvard should hire you to teach business because that is 100% of it. No, that's this business. But listen, it's so fucking right. Like you just said what's in my fucking brain. A hundred percent of that is true. Everyone should listen to this guy because it is a hundred fucking percent true. Run a tight ship. Yeah, exactly. When you're younger, you're like, oh, fuck.

Yeah, smart. You know, Harvard should hire you to teach business because that is 100% of it. No, that's this business. But listen, it's so fucking right. Like you just said what's in my fucking brain. A hundred percent of that is true. Everyone should listen to this guy because it is a hundred fucking percent true. Run a tight ship. Yeah, exactly. When you're younger, you're like, oh, fuck.

Yeah, smart. You know, Harvard should hire you to teach business because that is 100% of it. No, that's this business. But listen, it's so fucking right. Like you just said what's in my fucking brain. A hundred percent of that is true. Everyone should listen to this guy because it is a hundred fucking percent true. Run a tight ship. Yeah, exactly. When you're younger, you're like, oh, fuck.

And look, a fucking punk kid that came from nothing. So when you have employees, there is actually a Harvard thing where they say – There's a paradox where you hire somebody because you want someone to help you but they're not as good as you and you hire someone who's not as good as you and then you hire someone who's not as good as them. So then all this stuff and you have to do more work.

And look, a fucking punk kid that came from nothing. So when you have employees, there is actually a Harvard thing where they say – There's a paradox where you hire somebody because you want someone to help you but they're not as good as you and you hire someone who's not as good as you and then you hire someone who's not as good as them. So then all this stuff and you have to do more work.

And look, a fucking punk kid that came from nothing. So when you have employees, there is actually a Harvard thing where they say – There's a paradox where you hire somebody because you want someone to help you but they're not as good as you and you hire someone who's not as good as you and then you hire someone who's not as good as them. So then all this stuff and you have to do more work.

There's more hassles. Then you have a whole group of people reporting to you and this is exactly not how to run a business. And I even knew that going in. And then you hire – and you're exactly right. You hire all these people. All they need to do is be in the same room as you. Yeah. And then that's access. And once there's access, then you're exactly what you said. Then you deal with their issues.