Shawn French
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The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And I think that more, I know that more people need to adopt living in purpose and making impact over income or fame or anything like that. And because you guys have done that so consistently, you're changing lives and you're saving lives.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Yeah, man. You guys are all close and personal over there. You guys are rubbing elbows. Look at you guys. Yeah. Beautiful. No. So again, thank you so much for taking time to meet with me today and discuss Recovery Unplugged and what it means to society, the world, and the work that you guys are doing.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
You know, it's interesting, guys, because, you know, I look at this, you know, obviously music is art. And what I do is an art in its own right, interviewing people and things like that. And when I started, right, when I started this show, I started it with an iPhone in a car and I was just venting. And for me, it was getting things out.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And but also when what I noticed is, you know, I had that imposter syndrome earlier. Who the heck am I to, you know, to start a podcast? No one cares what I have to say. So it was that self-worth, right? And I continued to do the work. And what I found was even when I would go on a rant, it resonated with somebody and it helped somebody heal. And I'm like, wait a second.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
This could be so much bigger. So I doubled down on it and I kept working and I kept working. And then all of a sudden now this massive team behind me and we're able to get this message and have conversations with you two legends on the show to talk about your impact. And I'm, I'm making impact by delivering it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Yeah. I mean, you know, and thank you for that because to me, I always, when people meet me in person, like when, when we meet, you're like, you're the same guy. And to your point, social media does highlight some of the, well, most of the highlight reels of things. And when you meet somebody, sometimes the energies don't match. And to me, that's scary and that's dangerous, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
So before we get into it, for the audience that isn't familiar with Recovery Unplugged, can you guys give a little brief description of what it is that you guys are doing and how it was founded?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And so for me to use my voice, I had to get very comfortable with me in order to do that. And as I progress, I'm bringing more of me, more of my opinions and not worrying about how it's going to be, I guess, viewed or received by people that aren't my people. There's going to be people out there I'm sure hate my show. Cool. You have that right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
But what we're doing here is I'm never going to speak untruthfully. I'm going to be genuine. I'm going to be authentic. I know these are buzzwords, but here it's real. And that's why, to your point, I've been able to grow at a rapid pace. And that's why you guys have grown at such a rapid pace because it's real.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
It's about who you know.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Yeah, no, and that's great. And I'm glad the audience and if you're if you're listening right now, and you have any type of mental illness, you struggle with something or even addiction, like recovery unplug, think about this, go go look at it on the internet and see if it's something for you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Because what you're talking about right now is when people go or when when a family member sits another family member or friend down said, Hey, we think you have a problem. We need you to go to recovery. The only thing I would imagine, I'm not an addict, right? But I can imagine the feelings of shame.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
I love that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
I keep going back to impact in my mind. The only way you can make a true impact is if you care. Yes. And what you guys are doing is doing enough work up front to see what potentially might make that resident feel more comfortable immediately.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
You know, instead of walking into a scary moment and I'm here now and it's meeting after meeting and I'm labeled this addict and that could be scary, I would imagine.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
How do you help them work through that? I mean, I know the traditional, the medications, the therapies, the music and everything, but specifically that right there, that is a tough spot, right? How does that work at Recovery Unplugged and getting them through that initially or even as quickly as possible?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Come on.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Yeah. In 12 years. Yes. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Love it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
I love the leading by example aspect that you're talking about, right? Movement, right? Movement. So whether you're working out, running or dancing, it's still movement, right? You're breaking that inertia, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
As you know, that first movement that you make throughout the day, whether you're in recovery or just, you know, super tired from all the pizza you ate the night before or the sugar, like that first move is hard, right? But once you get moving, the juices start flowing. And it's always nice to see when the people in charge are also living examples of that, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And it all goes back, guys, to you're best equipped to help the person that you used to be.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Wow, that's amazing. Richie, what's been your journey in this with Andrew? Because, I mean, I know you play a big part in it and you're taking your own personal experience and bringing it into this venture. I mean, it's very interesting.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Thank you. Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
He's looking so smelt. Yeah. He's in his 80s and has more hair than I do. Good Lord, man. I'm worried about me.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
No, you look good. And so I'm a large, by the way. So when I come over, yeah, I will support that for sure. So as we land the plane here, guys, it's been a great conversation about what you guys do. And I know the audience is dialed in.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And my audience loves this kind of stuff because either they're dealing with addiction or mental illness or someone in their family, as you know, has been touched by it or friends. What's next for Recovery Unplugged?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Love it. Love that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Unbelievable, guys. I've really enjoyed this. And you guys are fascinating. What you guys are doing is groundbreaking and helping the world get better. And I'm super happy we spent this afternoon together.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
I can't wait to see you guys. I'm going to come over. I'm going to come over. I'll probably come over in the next three, four weeks. I'm going to be honest.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Yes, she will. Yes, she will. I'll be in touch with you guys. And for the audience, if this show touched you in any type of way, I'm sure it did. And you can share the show with somebody you know, love and trust. Please go ahead and share with them. Give them the words of these two amazing men and the work that they're doing in the world. And until next time, guys, stay determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Love it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Same.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Yeah. We were talking a little bit off air, and I told you how my wife and I, when we want to connect, we listen to music together. And then you mentioned music is about connectivity, and it connects people, right? From different paths, and everybody has a story, and you're able to connect really well through music. And like you mentioned, it disarms you. It disarms.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And I want to go back real quick. You talked about when you wrote Amazing, that big hit. I was watching some of that stuff prior to the interview. And just you and Steven Tyler on set singing that song. And I'm listening to his words. And the overarching thing is life is not about the destination. It's about the journey.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
right and i love this because i'm getting goosebumps like no joke guys because a lot of my platform i talk about hey you know do the small steps every day forget about what that macro result is you want but let's focus on the journey and who you become within that you know every single day and you know you're out there for a year and a half doing recovery unplugged just by yourself and then all of a sudden you're you're doing that every single day
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And Andrew, you guys have harmony, right? And you're doing what you do every single day. And all of a sudden, when the time is right, connectivity. And because of music, now you guys are working on your 18,000th patient. This is incredible. This is about doing the work every day with purpose and it opening up to something so much greater.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Love it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
What's up everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the determined society. I'm your host, Sean Frisch. Before I introduce today's guests, please hit subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, Apple podcasts, and let us know what you love about the show.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And you're referring to Adam David, correct?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Wow.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
Yeah, it sure is. You know, it's funny, you're talking about, we keep going back to the word connectivity, and there's a reason, right? So when I look at your little concerts, right, whether it was you and Steven Tyler, Flo Rida, I'm looking at the crowd. I'm looking at... the residents within the facility. And I'm seeing some super open and just flown with it. And there was just one, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
So today I have singer songwriter, Richie Supa, who his resume is very, very large, but I'm going to drop a couple of names here with Aerosmith and Steven Tyler, pink air supply. Uh, an amazing, amazing professional in the music industry, and I have the founder of Recovery Unplugged, Andrew Sosin, with us today. We're going to get into it right now. Gentlemen, welcome to the show.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
I believe it was the Flowrider video. I saw her in the front with her arms crossed, kind of looking around, wanting to come out. But I can see in her eyes that she was wanting to, but wasn't comfortable yet. But then as the video... continued, you can see her facial expression changing to a little bit more joy because there was so much love and fun going on around her.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
And again, the connectivity of the music, having someone big like Flo right on the stage, right? Right there in your little room was pretty dang cool. It was, but it gave them a chance to just be and connect, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Saving Lives Through Music: The Untold Story of Recovery Unplugged
The one thing that I admire most with you gentlemen is, again, very successful past. As you mentioned, Richie, you left the music industry to do this solely, and Andrew, you left some things that you were doing to focus on this. It is an energy, but what it mostly is is two people leading with a purpose and something that's so fulfilling.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
When I say this movie needs to be seen everywhere, and I mean, to me, it's an Oscar nod. Like, I truly mean it. You guys absolutely crushed it, and I really do feel if there's anybody listening, yo, you need to get on this shit. Because the bottom line is, I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it. If this movie is not seen, then the world cannot heal.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Yeah. I think the word feel is super important, right? Because a lot of times people want to skip the feel part, right? And when you're in something like this and you're feeling those moments, it just makes everything much more impactful. It also shows us, you know, towards the end, everything has the opportunity to be okay, right? Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
You know, you know, Bill, your your character, I feel like I want you to answer the other question. I think you already have. But, you know, I do feel like Sam got as happy after ever, ever after, man, you know, towards the end. I thought it was a nice little twist.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Yeah. So I feel like, you know, that character, Samuel got a happy ever after. He had such a hard life and so many things. And then, you know, the wife was there and then, you know, um, You know, the other the other things I don't want to ruin the ending for people, but I probably already did. But but I you know, hey, I'm not perfect.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
But the bottom line is the bottom line is like there was there was a moment where there was a massive pendulum swing. Right. And in in the in whether it was luck or more blessings towards Samuel's character.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
And we have our writer and director. rob rob rob like dude you like rob sayer right it's a sayer without an r but we're here and um man i'm just so happy to be here with you guys and uh i told you guys before filming that i'm in love with the movie
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Well, I think that, I mean, I know that you guys, everybody in the movie impacted me when I watched it. It was phenomenally done. The one thing that I really noticed, and it's so funny because my show is called The Determined Society, and I'm watching this whole movie, I'm like, These are some determined sons of bitches here in this movie because there's a lot of shit going on.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Like, a lot of shit. And it just showed that, you know, in everyone's lives, there are moments where you either have the option to A, either throw in the towel, or B, fight. And everyone in this movie was a fighter, and I... loved it because of that. Right. Because of that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Did you guys feel, I mean, I know determination probably wasn't one of the things that crossed your mind, but, but looking back at it and looking at your characters, how determined, how different were they and, and Rob, how determined were you to write this whole script?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
You're doing great.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
My pleasure.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Oh, you know, I love that shit. That's good. That's good stuff. That's good stuff.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
So hell man, if I quit every time someone laughed at me for wanting to start a podcast, I wouldn't be sitting here with y'all.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Absolutely. I mean, like, again, you know, from opening scene to the very last the very last scene, my it's the name is fitting beyond the rush because my heart was continually going like this. Like it was, you know, Mina, your beginning scene. Right. Like that right there. I was like, oh, my God. Like I knew right then I'm like, my wife is not going to watch this movie with me.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
you know i battled to get a good ending you know something that you don't walk out feeling you know and you could see it man you can see it in that whole battle like you know you know mina you you know you i want i want you to speak on determination now because you've been in this business a very long time i'm sure there was moments that were very frustrating you gotta go bill
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
all right my man yes um thank you sir you're leaving yeah can you believe he's he's he's got he's doing the irish goodbye he's doing that well i'm sure to goodbyes if you didn't say anything i know i know i know we just kind of drifted off hey sending you love man give your give your pops my best man thanks and it's been an honor to be on here really enjoy talking here i'd love to talk more about baseball but thanks so much
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Absolutely. Well, we'll do a group thread. We'll do a group thread or something like that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Thank you, brother. So, I mean, again, Mina, you know, you were you've you've been in the industry for a long time and then you've gone through many different roles and probably a lot of different types of rejection and all that good stuff. And your mom. And you're an author.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
How about that one?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Dude, it's constant, isn't it?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Well, I think the important thing, I think the important thing when we're talking about determination, we're talking about pushing through adversity is, is, is really, and I tell this, I say about, I talk about this all the time is doing the next right thing. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
So let's say, you know, you're getting discouraged and there's someone right now watching the show that has followed you your whole career. And the words that come out of your mouth are going to help them. How do they, you know, what would you tell them to do if they're struggling and they're at that point, they just want to quit on their dreams? What would you tell them?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
because she'll have nightmares for the rest of her life. This is going to be all on me to watch. But from that point to, you know, the character you played, Leah, and Bill, you as the lead male, like, I have so many questions, right? Like, first of all, tell me kind of how you guys, what attracted you guys to Beyond the Rush in the first place? Because it is such a dynamic film.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
you know, I, you know, that's, that's all interesting. And, and you're, you're spot on, on every, every bit of it. And it's, it's so crazy because, you know, the, one of the main things was when you get to really know yourself to the core, right. You have to truly know yourself and just understand what your boundaries are and who you are really. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
And I think that a lot of people kind of put the cart before the horse. They want, the self-confidence, they want all the respect, they want to know who they are, but yet they're falling short on their standards that they set out. God bless you. The standards that they set on themselves every single day, right? So if you're going on an introspective journey,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
you know, you're sitting there, okay, every day I'm going to do A, B, and C, right? So you do A, B, and C, no matter how good or bad you feel, right? And this is where the determination kicks in.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Everything that you've gone through in your personal life, everything that Rob's gone through, everything that Bill's gone through, and even myself is, okay, are we going to make the decision to move forward even though emotionally I feel like shit right now? Right. Because because if I don't, if I don't move forward, I'm out of alignment with who I am. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
And I just get further and further away from that person, that man, that woman I'm supposed to be. Right. Whereas to your point, if we keep going and searching for our value, we find it in the work. And a lot of people miss that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
It was amazing because up until the point where you guys are sitting in the living room, right? Samuel is a young boy and then his brother Peter, it was time for your character to go away for a bit to get better. You could see the pain in Leah's eyes and that was the goodness, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
And it's also kind of why if you continue to watch the movie, you're almost, you know, Samuel's conscious throughout the whole movie. And that's the, yeah, it, it, to me, it, it, it made sense.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Yeah, no, absolutely. And kudos to Rob. Cause I mean like what, what you did, not just writing and directing it, but putting everybody in that place to do what they do clearly showed a lot of freedom and creativity and everybody being themselves, you know? So, so Bill, man, like, you know, talk about your character, very complex character, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
I felt like every five seconds and seconds, something was happening to Samuel.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French, and today I have a special, special treat for you. I know I always say that, but wait until you hear this show and watch this show wherever you enjoy The Determined Society. So today I have...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Dude, that's freaking impactful because right from the jump of the movie, right, it's like there was a scene. And right at this certain scene, I'm not going to say it because I want people to watch this and be surprised of what happens in the movie because I feel I love the movie so much I could talk about it and ruin it for everybody.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
But there was a moment there where someone comes up to you and is like, hey, looks like you're doing great. What do we really know about people's lives? Right. What do we really know? So to your point, you know, being able to be introspective, like, wait a second, the whole world is going on right now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Like I'm having this conversation with y'all right now and I have certain problems in my life, but there's somebody down the road that has bigger problems. And what are they going on in their life? Maybe they're the one that cut me off in traffic. I don't know what they're in a hurry for. Maybe I should give them some grace.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
an amazing cast from an amazing film that I just saw and it's an independent film that to me needs to be distributed everywhere on big screen and has major Oscar implications in my mind. It's incredible and these performances from the actresses to the actors and the writing and directing from, it's just a masterful piece. So today I have with me award-winning actress,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
This is impactful because you mentioned, you know, growth and Mina, you mentioned personal growth as well. You like to choose roles that help you grow as a person. So I kind of want to hear from each of you. Well, we'll go Rob and Mina. And then, you know, Bill, you can elaborate on how it helped you grow in your life, just playing these characters and being a part of this production.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
You just let them be the peacocks they are and you let them fly captain. That's what you did, baby. That's what you did. Yeah. You guys know that reference, the other guys. With Will Ferrell and Marky Mark? Oh, yeah. No? Okay. Come on, Mina. Help me out here for crying out loud.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
You like it? Good. It was good. I'm a peacock, Captain. You got to let me fly. I'm a peacock. I'm a peacock. You got to let me fly. Have you ever done a desk pop? What's a desk pop?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
he fires the gun oh that's right that's right that's right yeah yeah just writing the office yeah just boom everybody's done what sorry amina we're we're getting it yeah yeah so she's like it's it's here it's here on that one um She's going to, it's going to come across. She's going to watch the movie over again now.
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Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
So, you know, like, again, you, you mentioned that you like to have, you know, the character, you know, play a character that you're truly interested in that can help you grow. How did, how did this impact you, this film overall?
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Behind the Scenes of Oscar-Worthy Film 'Beyond The Rush': Mena Suvari, Bill Barrett & Robert Sayegh
Nina Savari, you have definitely seen her in a lot of films, American Pie, American Beauty, yada, yada, yada. Well, she plays an amazing lead role as the mom, Leah, in this movie, and she absolutely crushes it. And we have... Our man Bill Barrett, who plays Samuel, a very complex character, incredible. I got to tell you, dude, that role, it was very amazing to see that role on screen.
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That's awesome. You know, because I, I, I'm, I'm listening to this. And like when you, when you say, you know, you wake up in the morning, you have a headache, right? You know, I overate on some stuff last night, but I'm not going to lie to you. And I woke up this morning and I had a headache. Exactly. And I'm like, what the hell? And then, and then, and then I woke up and then I had my water.
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Right. And then I had some black coffee. And I just didn't want to touch food until later on in the day. And by that point, I'm underfed. And then I'm not making the best decision moving forward.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
And I think that's the game that everybody's playing in society is what one decision that you make at night really is going to impact how you feel in the morning and impact your decision making throughout the day. And then when it really hurts and you've been there, is it's like at night when you have the decision fatigue and that's when you fall off the rails. That's when you binge.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
And then you start to cycle over.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
And I'm sitting over here, you know, looking at probably the most in shape individual on the face of this earth. Yeah.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Was that because there's a high level of cortisol?
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
I would say initial, to be fair, like, oh my God, that's a lot, right? It's a lot. But then when I peeled back the onion a little bit, I was really starting to see the mission, right? The mission of like, hey, we can reverse the aging process and we can have more time on this earth with the ones that we love.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
And you're not giving advice that is, you don't have to be rich to do that. You don't have to be an entrepreneur. You don't have to be anything other than let's just stay present and let's try this. Let's, okay, 8 p.m., now 7 p.m., now 6 p.m. And if I can get away at 5 p.m. and that's my sweet spot, well, then why wouldn't you continue it, right? Right.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Let me ask you this is something I was thinking about when I was, you know, watching your documentary and, and just like other things that I've seen from you, you know, based on body composition, everything like that. You stop eating at 11 and you're vegan by choice, correct? Yeah, plant based. Okay, plant based. How in the world? How do you hold so much muscle?
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
I'm actually curious because I think there's a, and this is why I asked the question for the audience listening and watching. This is why I ask because everybody tells us that you need to have, you know, right now I'm 198 pounds. Well, if I want to gain all this muscle and shred fat, then I need to have 250 to 300 grams of protein a day.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Well, I can't get that by 11 or even probably 4 or 5 p.m., right? Because that's a lot of protein. What are your thoughts on that? Because when I look at you, you're plant-based. There's no way in God's green earth you're getting over 200 to 250 grams of protein a day.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
And look at you.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
And I just, I adore the fact that you've pretty much turned yourself into a guinea pig to help
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
When you say 130 grams of protein, if you don't mind me asking, what's your lean mass? What's your lean mass at? You know, I need to look at that number. I don't know. I mean, it's high, right? I mean, obviously. But no, these are just things that I like to ask, right?
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Yeah, you're very lean. And is that including visceral and brain and all that kind of stuff?
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100%.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Wow. Wow. That's impressive, man. That's impressive. You know what happens when I eat a lot of protein? I get gout in my ankles.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
It's, my wife was saying, you know, we're going to dive into his blueprint. My wife, she's all in it, man. She watched it with me. And I told her I was interviewing you today. And she was very intent of like, I think I want to dive into this. I want to dive into this. She goes, are you open? I'm like, well, of course I'm open. I have three beautiful children and a beautiful wife.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
I want to be around. I'm 46. I'm roughly the same age as you. And I'm just now starting to get healthier again. And when I look at you, I'm like, wow, that's something that's possible. you know, in later in age, right. That, that I'm in. And I think there's a lot of people out there that even listening to the show right now can really get a whole lot out of him. Like, Hey, wait a second.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
I can feel better. I can sleep better. I can look better and I can live just a little bit longer.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Dude, of you? I mean, everybody's pretty much blown away, man. I mean, they're very excited about this episode being recorded and going out because what I think you've done is create an undercurrent of what everybody really wants, right? Everybody wants more time on this earth and nobody wants to really get sick But I think the big disconnect, Brian, is... There's many things that stuck with me.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
I think too, I keep going back to this, but the wake up in the morning, right? I know when I'm eating super clean and I'm exercising a lot that I'll wake up in the morning and I just jump out of bed and I'm good, right? What's the biggest difference? I felt good waking up in the morning, but I'm very curious on how you feel when you wake up.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
I just feel like, Brian, your mission in life right now is to show people how to gain a little bit more time. As a parent and a husband, I've said this on my show many times, and I've even said it here, I want to be around longer for my children. I want to see my daughters walk down the aisle. I want to hold my grandchildren. Hell, I want to be a great grandparent one day.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
And I think that too many people in the world have just accepted that this is just the way it is and I'm going to die soon. And it is what it is. But we can reverse that a little bit. And I think that's all you're trying to prove.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
That's wild. That is wild. Because when you started it, you, out of 12 months, you age 1.01 years, right? Exactly. And then you got down to, you know, you were saying like, hey, you know, November, you know, September, like whatever, the last three months you get for free. Now you've exceeded that.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
But one comment that you made on your show was, I used to eat with my mind and now I eat with my body. I'm like, holy shit. Hold on a second. What does that actually mean? Because when you look at that, it causes for a different action, right? And... In my circle, at least, they're very intrigued and very excited. Now, I know you've caught a lot of hate. I mean, you know that.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Impressive, man. I am super intrigued by all of this, as you can tell. You're out there, you're touring the world, right? And you're at your Don't Die Summit. You're going to be in Miami soon. And I think that's an amazing way to give back and show people the resources, right? It's not just a keynote. You're up there on stage and you bang out on your PJ afterwards.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
You're there, you're mixing it up, you're talking to people, and you're going to see the vendors. Thank you
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Thank you. Thank you.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Thank you.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Thank you. Thank you.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
You've talked about it openly. And I kind of find it comical, to be quite honest with you.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
None of my friends have burned anything of you, dude. Not one. Not one. I watched the documentary with my wife and she's like, wow, that's a lot. She goes, but hey, can we just do some of this? Yeah. Because we can't set up a lab in our house. And I'm like, I get it. But for my circle, there's been no burns on you. Everybody's just intrigued.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Thank you.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Thank you.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Thank you.
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Yeah, I mean, walk the audience through that though, right? Because what does that actually, you know, we can say it, right? But I'm also curious to dive deeper into that because I've made a lot of improvements lately, but there's still a ton I can do because I still, we're emotional beings, right? So for me, if I'm happy, I wanna eat, I wanna celebrate. If I'm sad, I wanna eat because I'm down.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
thing that i really enjoyed is that he was getting in it with you you know he was like you know he he at one point he's like hey can i go can i go get my pills now like can i can i do this and you could just see the connection there between the two of you and don't worry man i i would cry in a target too like i i brother i'm that guy don't don't worry man i i probably have I probably have.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
But again, man, thank you so much for coming on. I truly enjoyed having this conversation with you. I would love to keep the communication open with you and continue to learn from you and all that good stuff, man. You're doing big things and I appreciate you. Thanks, Sean. I really enjoyed hanging out with you. Yeah, me too, man. Me too. Me too. It was great.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
So for the audience, I need you guys to do me a quick favor. I need you to drop a comment here on YouTube or on Spotify and tell us what you really enjoyed about the episode. But more than anything, please share it with someone that you know, love and trust that wants to have a better life, improve their longevity and be around their people a little bit longer. And until next time, stay determined.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
So, but that's all mental and you have disconnected from your mind, right?
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
But I think what I enjoy most about it, right, is like, yes, you have this whole elaborate setup and everything like that. But what you're really doing is you're just showing by making changes, you can reverse the aging of your organs, right? And I think it's hard for a lot of people to really...
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
I think except because like, wait a second, you know, am I really living if I'm doing all this and not being out there living, but, but, but they're missing it. Yes. They're missing it.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French, and before I introduce today's guest, please go ahead and hit follow on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts, and let us know what you loved about today's guest. So today I have with us a longevity expert, a man who has set out to literally say don't die.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
It's, I'm like, I'm, my mind's going a lot of different places when you're, when you're speaking about that. But the one particular place that I want to speak about is, you know, to your point, the YOLO, right? We're going to go party and we're going to go do all these things. We're going to work ourself till we're miserable and not have enough space to be present with our families, et cetera.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Right. That's okay. Society accepts that. Society accepts seeing people on social media drinking, talking about porn, all this different stuff, but it's taboo to want to live longer? How is that? I mean, right, Ryan? Like, go on, man. Like, what are your thoughts on that? Like, how do you work through that and how do you educate people on that specific point?
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
you know, like, well, dude, I mean, like, I mean, but for most people, like, I mean, it was even in your doc, like, you know, the view was bashing you. Like one lady is like, F you Brian. It's like, you're, you're missing it. And I, and I, and I think what it, what it did though, I think what it did, Brian, and I tend to look at things deeply.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
That's why I didn't miss that one statement in your, in your documentary is like, You remind people that they aren't doing the right stuff. I know, it's true. And it's a threat. Yeah. Especially to the medical industry. Because we all know there's no gain, there's no profit in healthy people.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Yeah, I think what makes, I mean, I think beyond the obvious, your intelligence and the things that you're doing make you very appealing to the layperson is you've been overweight, Brian. You've been, I mean, I look at things from you back in the day, you know, over at Braintree Venmo before you sold to PayPal. It's like the dude doesn't even look the same.
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
He's created the Don't Die Summit and the Blueprint. I have with us Netflix's own Brian Johnson, what's up, brother? Hey, good to see you. It's so good to see you, man. It's so good to see you. I've seen so many things from you. I feel like I already know you. How do I match up in real life? Well, dude, you're as handsome as ever, okay?
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Reversing Aging and Living Longer with Bryan Johnson: The Blueprint for Longevity
Like it's not even, it's not, it's not even like a body issue, right? It's like the face, the hair, the skin, the everything. I think it would be important for the audience to maybe walk them through how you felt post Braintree to lead you to where you're at right now.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Hey, man, it's good to see you guys.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
You're in California, right? So you're in California for the fires. I would assume you're probably still in Florida in some parts and then the Carolinas, yes?
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Bro, I'm getting back into it, man. Like, you know, I'm trying. You know, I see some vascularity coming out.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
What I think is real special too is, and I want the audience to really hear this. So if you live in Atlanta or anywhere close to Atlanta, get your butts to Fuel Fest on April 19th. If you have children 12 and under get in free, go party with a purpose and give back to, to reach out worldwide. Cause that's, that's the thing, right?
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
We all, the thing that I love about how the two play together is, you know, one we're honoring someone and we're giving a space for the car culture and people like out there that,
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
go fast somewhere to do it safely in part yes right and then also we're giving back to to those that are that are being challenged right now through you know the natural disasters and i can tell you what i live right here in hurricane alley you know it it shit gets pretty scary guys you know and and just to know that you know there is an organization tied to your brother's name out there helping i'm not surprised but but it makes me feel very very good about this
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Yeah, that came right through us, man. I didn't stick around for that one. Well, you know, listen, man.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Well, dude, I grew up in the Bay Area. I grew up in San Francisco Bay. Yeah. So I'm very familiar. I came out this way after I played college baseball at LSU. But I grew up in the San Francisco Bay. So I was there for the early 89ers. I was in elementary. I'm 46.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Bro, coming from you, like, I'm going to hold on to that, and I'm going to take that to heart, bro.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Same.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
The Bay Bridge collapsed. I was born in 089.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
And I was on a soccer field. Wow. And I just remembered doing this. I'm like, what's that?
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Well, you have a shirt on. You have one of them old school Adidas tracksuits on. So I'm sure it's there, bro.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
I'm coming to market with mine. So no guys, listen, it's super excited to meet you guys. You know, obviously super excited to talk about fuel fast and what it means, you know, at a deeper rooted level and what it's providing the car culture and just even giving back to your lives as well.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
I will be at Florida there for sure. I have an event I'm speaking at that week in Pennsylvania.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
I see what he's doing.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Damn it. Damn it. Damn it, Tyrese. I'm going to work it out. I'll keep Val posted so she can get with you. But I would love to meet you guys, and we'll go from there. I'm going to work it out.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
And carrying on Cody, your brother, Paul's legacy is something that he would be proud of that people can go and, and really dive into the culture and go fast safely and really have somewhere to go to celebrate the 20 years of fast, really. I mean, think about that. I mean, it's been two decades, you know, and there's people that have grown up on that fast and furious, you know, legacy.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Say less, bro. Say less. I'll figure it out.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
That's it. And yours truly will be there. I accept your invite. I love you both. Check your DMs because we'll set up a meet and greet and all that good stuff. So, gentlemen. Look at Tyrese vibing. I just love it, man. I love it. Listen, thank you guys for coming on. I appreciate you. Thank you, Sean. Get there. Get there. I know a lot of people in Atlanta. You're going to have to come with me.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Share this episode with someone you know, love, and trust that would really enjoy Fuel Fest, guys. That's what I'm asking the audience to do. Get this out to everybody you know. Thank you guys so much. Until next time, stay determined.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
So this is more than just fast.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
Yeah, the weather in Atlanta is bipolar. We don't want to do that, man. We never know what it's going to be about. But you guys just wrapped up West Palm Beach, right?
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
It was after the earthquake in Haiti, right? That's right.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
if I could really quickly Cody please real quick I just want to edify you for that Tyrese thank you for sharing that it's You know, obviously, you know, not knowing Paul personally, but, you know, it was as real as it could be for someone like me who was just a big fan and just knew what kind of person he was.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
So to hear you share something personal like that, I don't want to continue the interview without saying thank you for that.
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
For sure, man. Yeah. And so, Cody, you know, from your perspective, you know, being blood brother. Right. And and being able to continue his legacy and doing fuel fast and and taking proceeds and putting in to reach out worldwide. What does that mean to you in doing all of this?
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Fuel Fest 2025: Tyrese & Cody Open Up About Paul Walker, Car Culture, and Raising $700k for Charity
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Determined Society. I am your host, Sean French. I have an amazing treat for you today, as always. But first, hit the follow button on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple, and get ready for this fast and furious episode. We're going to be highlighting Fuel Fest with amazing guests Tyrese Gibson and Cody Walker. What's up, boys? Yo, what up, Sean?
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Conditioning. It's conditioning. That's what it is. From the environment. Right. From the environment. What all you guys at that point in your life are looking for leadership. So yes, it's, yeah, okay, I was a follower, cool. But everyone's a follower at some point, right? We all follow our parents. And if that's not available, you go try to find other inspiration to follow, right?
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
So it's just a classic example of wanting leadership. And I'm just listening to this and I'm like, damn, how selfish can I be? And this is what I mean by that. When I'm 11- I'm not worried about things like that. I'm worried about my parents dropping me off at the Little League field in time so I can play pickle with my teammates and eat Grand Slam burger with cheese and throw the pickles around.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
That's my son. That's my son today. That's their life now, right? That's their life now. Where there's somebody on the other side of the United States of America at 11 years old.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
doing these things and and it's like i just wonder i'm like man like we need to be able to get outside of ourselves and understand the there's a world there's life going on around us and that people are in other positions and how can we help because it's perspective and reality right you know that's as we look out on someone else's world it's our perspective yeah
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Right. Right. How did your experience growing up as an 11 year old in that environment and in the streets and, you know, potential, you know, gang fights with a neighboring town? How has that helped you? become the dad that you are now and the husband that you are now. Cause I'd have to say that's deep, man. But that, that right there, like think about that. Those three beautiful kids I just met,
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
You know, I think it's important. Right? It is. It's important so that they really truly understand where you came from and also to appreciate what they have in you and in their life now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode. I am your host, Sean French. Before I introduce today's amazing guest, please go to YouTube, hit subscribe, Spotify the same, and Apple. Follow us on social media at The Determined Society and at TheSeanFrench. Today I have an amazing guest. He's a Super Bowl champion. He's a first-round draft pick, number one. 29 to be exact.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Do you ever – because I kind of grew – I didn't grow up in the same type of environment, right? But I have a mom. My mom and my biological father split when I was two, right? So I grew up first nine years of my life without a father figure and then finally got one, right? But I also – like for me, if I – When I feel like I disappoint my children, that's the hardest part for me of my day.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
So like I can get dad guilt, man. Have you ever dealt with anything like that?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It's funny because I've always been real on the show. I'm always authentic and talk about my life as much as I possibly can without exposing too much. That moment happened for me this morning. You talk about husband guilt. I did my part in something. She did her part in something. But it was this complete, massive miscommunication. At the time, I'm like, I ain't coming off as I'm right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I'm righteous. How dare you? But as I'm driving down here in the... and the tempers start to kind of come down a little bit, Sean, what could you have done better in that? What could you have done better in that situation? I think ultimately that is the important thing about life and relationships. And just as, you know, now being an entrepreneur, as you know, it was like,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
How can I get better in that moment? Because we're never going to be 100% on. We're never going to be perfect. And I'll take the Sean today over the Sean I was eight years ago. No problem. But I still feel it, man. It's like, man, I really could have done better.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
29th pick overall for the Indianapolis Colts. Picked Tom Brady off for interception in the championship game to take the Colts to the Super Bowl and ended up winning it. He is from Sharon, Pennsylvania. He's doing amazing things as an entrepreneur now for the community and the education system in America. Marlon Jackson, welcome to the show. John, thank you for having me.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I think also, too, to that point is I was joking about something and it escalated, but I wasn't reading the room. Right. So I think that we have to all do a really good job of reading the room. Like, where's this person at? What are they going through right now? If I say this, no matter what my intentions are, how's it going to, how's it going to pop off? Yep. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And I just think that in that moment, I didn't do a good job of it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It's a great point, man. It's a great point because I, it's so funny because I can feel at it so many times, but I pride myself in the fact that my emotional intelligence level, my EQ is so high and my intelligence level, I don't know where it's at. But I also feel in the world now, in the world we live in now, emotional intelligence far surpasses IQ. Yep.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Well, you have to know how to communicate a thought, right? You can feel a certain way and have a certain emotion. It's how we bring it across, whether it's to our family, to our employees, to the rest of our leadership team is like, hey, you know, this is where we're at. And how can you craft the conversation so that everybody feels open to be able to speak and not feel attacked?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Yeah. Yeah. I think it's too, it's like, it's the competitive spirit, right? Everybody wants to win. Like everybody wants to do a great job and, and communicating that and being on the same wavelength is super important. Right. And it's, it's important in entrepreneurship.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I appreciate the opportunity. Dude, likewise, man. It's great sitting here with you, and we are having some amazing off-the-air conversations just about family, kids, school, just everything. Life. Life. Life. But it's happening, huh?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And then even as, you know, your career in the NFL, like you, I mean, you want to talk about a mixed bag, a team, talk about that locker room, man. Like a lot of different individuals, you know, very decorated career, obviously went to the Superbowl, won one. Talk about that a little bit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
See, there's a big difference between reaction and response, right? And like when you said we have to choose how we respond. Now, there's a lot of times where I react to things and then I go back. I'm like, oh, my God, I completely screwed that one up. But, you know, that's a big thing, right? It's like we're all going through stuff. We're all going through life.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I think it's important for the audience to really dig into that, whether you're an entrepreneur, a parent, or even if you're a coach in a team. I think it's so easy to lead with the heavy hand and to get after somebody and tell them the way it is. But when we really peel back the onion, people want respect and people want to be heard and they want collaboration.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And Tony Dungy was ahead of the time. Like, cause no, still no one's really doing it. Who's doing it? Not like him. Not like him. Not like him. Like dude, even Sama didn't. Hell no. Saban's a whole other beast right there. But you can honestly say, college football-wise, GOAT. GOAT. Different approaches. Different approaches, right? Very systematic. One hair out of place.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
That janitor better care as much as the starting quarterback. Everybody had to be on the same page. So he created systems, and that's where they stayed. But with Tony Dungy, that's a great point. That makes it, I feel... Easier to play for, easier to work for because you're not on that, you know, year two, you're going into the championship game that you end up winning and winning the Super Bowl.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It's much more comfortable to do your job when you know the man is actually for you instead of, yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
We're all struggling with kids doing their classwork, forgetting shit. And, you know, we're, you know, hoping it doesn't cause the next fight with the missiles.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
True student, right? It's so funny because I watch this and I know it's kind of a funny parallel, but did you ever watch All-American on Netflix? Oh, yeah. So Spencer James, the very first episode, they talk about feet. He's looking at feet. I didn't know that was a thing. So if his foot was going to do a certain thing when he lined up, he knew where the play was going.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It's amazing. So that specific play, when you picked off Tom Brady— to win that AFC championship, to go to the Super Bowl, given everything in your childhood that you went through and your moments at Michigan, that moment right there, explain what that meant.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Just think of that word, man. A signature moment. Yeah, that moment, man. As I was sitting at my friend Joel Earhart's Couch, I remember it. We wanted the Colts to win so badly. And then you pick that pass up, I'm like, it's over now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I think it's important for, you know, athletes or parents of athletes or anybody listening really truly. It's not about the technical skills. I mean, those are important. You have to be able to act. But the mind, like if you are not giving everything you have in the film room or whatever that proverbial film room is for you, then what are you even doing?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
dude it's that's tough right it's tough because no because things happen like you mentioned that happens that's right it's just core of your mind and you have to find that way to switch into that executive position to make those decisions to get your business to run exactly exactly and it is it is challenging uh but at the same time we have to realize that it is possible but it starts with awareness a lot of us aren't even aware because in our education system it's not a part of
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It's so hard for me to coach Little League and watch baseball because there could be two outs and we have a new batter up, bases are empty, and the first two pitches to that hitter with two outs, our balls, I already know what's going to happen three plays from now. Like, it's hard because I know he's going to walk them. Then I know there's going to be a pass ball or a stolen base.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And then I know there's going to be a base hit, and then we just gave up a run with two outs. So that part of it is because of studying over and over again the trends within baseball. You know if there's a two-out walk, you're screwed. It's just like they always say every inning, leading lady every inning, get the first guy out. If you don't get that first guy out...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
then the percentages of you getting out of that inning without giving up a run are very slim, right? And so to your point, like, guys, we got to be studying these things. We have to know. So, okay, so that happens. And then you go to that big moment in the Super Bowl.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Leaders have foresight to see things before it happens, right? Yes. And, again, what everybody needs to do in big moments is quiet the noise as much as they possibly can. That's right. You know, as much as we love our families and everything like that, like, it can get noisy, especially in that moment, right? Yeah. Like, you need to be able to lock in. That's right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Because that dog in you to win a Super Bowl, like, you need that there.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
You have to be dialed in. It's that laser focus where you have to be unshakable.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Dude, you're taught, you're preaching the choir right now, man. You truly are. It's funny. Like you, you, I don't watch many horse races, but when you do, they have blinders on. Why do they have blinders on? So they can only see what's in front of them.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And that's what we need to do in sports. So we need to do an entrepreneurship sometimes, but there is a disconnect. Like you need to be able to be open and kind of open up your peripherals for family and things of that nature. Exactly. Exactly. So, okay. So, you know, I want to paint a picture here, the upbringing and sharing, right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Everything you went through in your childhood, you know, carrying the firearms in your backpack, you're here in the clinic, you got the police there, um,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
to Michigan in that fight, getting to play for an amazing program like the Wolverines, and then going to the Colts and being able to be led by Tony Dungy, Peyton Manning, picking Tom Brady off, and all of a sudden that blue and white confetti flies. All these moments in your life were there for a purpose. It wasn't about winning a Super Bowl. It wasn't about any of that long term.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
God had a purpose for you to impact the world by way of education and giving back to the youth. Can you help me in telling the story of your foundation to the audience that the Marlon Jackson that was formed and created throughout his whole life is now giving back and helping education?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Oh, the ideas that we have to make the education much stronger. We don't teach children how to think. We teach them how to take tests. you know, and to judge their worth based on what level they're at, how they scored on the state test, et cetera. So before we get into all that, though, why don't you give the audience a peek behind Marlon Jackson as a youth?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Yeah, see, what I'm loving about this SAS program, right, is the fact that it's not just support for the students. It's the support for the teachers. It's support for administration and all the support within the school to where there's indicators and data to point to this is where this child's struggling. This is where that child's struggling.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
So it's a collaboration effect of how do we get these kids through? Because one of the hardest things as a teacher that teachers deal with, and I know so because I did used to teach is is not understanding what that child is going through. And how can I craft this conversation of like, I think this kid's high. Or this kid is falling asleep in my class.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It's genius because that is the, I mean, just even at the time when I was a teacher and a coach, I tended to lead my classroom like the baseball coach, right? Like, hey, wake up, get out of my class. I don't know what's going on with that person. I don't know what's going on with her or him. right? This is great. So how many, how many school districts, how many schools are you guys in?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
What does that look like?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
So that's their bell work.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
But I think it's also super right. And it's so great because that can, like you said, build a relationship with the student, the teacher. Right now, the teacher can see real time what's bothering this student and they can handle it kind of.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
one-on-one it's not call out it's not anything other than hey how can i help you with this the one thing that do schools ever push back on like well what if the child's not being honest right what if yeah so how do you guys work through that because let's say they're probably like i don't want to say that i didn't eat because they might want to protect the parents right or you know my mom's in jail or my dad got arrested last night how do you guys work through those types of situations even the false reports
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Everything's great. but their actions are showing differently. Does that also flag in the system to like, maybe there needs to be a conversation between the student, the teacher, or potentially the counselor?
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Okay.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I love it, man. I love it. It's important. So you're in 11 schools and you're looking to go to 20. Is that what you said? Yes, this school year, 20. All in the Indianapolis area? Are you looking to expand nationwide?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I just think it's an interesting thing because again, like I can't stress it enough. Excuse me. My wife teaches at a prep school, right? And you would think that nothing's going on, right? Because it costs $30,000 a year to go to that school. Like, dude, stuff happens, man. And I'm like looking at just even in Florida, in Lee County, this software would fix a lot of shit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Different problems like anxiety, right? It's the same stuff. So a lot of times you'll see kids at privileged schools like this, like, what if I don't get in Princeton? Oh my God. But the feeling's still the same.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Yeah, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Thankless job, by the way, like in in in some communities and some some societies like teachers are they're just bashed. Right. And some and some are looked at like you listen to your teacher. It is a hard line for a teacher to walk. Right. I mean, it's tough. Like you said, undervalued. It's a thankless job. It is. You know, and I would also say being a student is a thankless job. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And a lot of times just being a kid in society is very, very difficult. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
The big underlying current here, right, to me, and I could be completely wrong, right, but when I listen to all this, and when we talked about, you mentioned society is divided right now, there's a massive division going on. This type of service and this type of collaboration can teach kids to see like in each other and understand that they can work together.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And if we can fix it at that root, then when they grow up, we're not as divided as society. To me, I see it as a... Yes, there's the overarching purpose of this, but then there's so much more.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
They can't really impact the children. So that AI, that algorithm helps them do their job more effectively. It's not replacing them. It's assisting. It's assisting. It's an enhancement. Exactly. And that's what's needed. Over the last 18 years, how have you seen this evolve, man? Because I imagine it wasn't easy. Level of determination.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
That's irony at its best right there.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I love it, man. And for the audience paying attention to this, You hear his journey with the company, right? You heard all the bumps and bruises. Success is not a straight line. Everybody likes to think about, I got to wait and start until I have everything. You started everything. With what you had. And it wasn't a straight hockey stick up.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It was success, then a plateau, then a fall, and then there was a lot of this. How important is determination in moving forward when you're going through something like this? Because the audience needs to hear that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
You're picking my every thought, dude. Like literally. And I think it's because we're a lot alike in this, right? It's like when we are building something and there's this level of determination, obsession to continue to go. How many times I sat to myself like, it's time to throw in the freaking towel. Like, you know, I just, I can't do this on my own anymore. But there was something in me.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
There was something in me that said, you know what, Sean? Blind faith. Just keep going. Release the next episode, next episode. And now I have amazing partners, amazing production team, amazing photographer, amazing, just support and guests. And, and, and it's because I pushed. Yep. It's because that thing inside me says like, nah, man, you ain't done.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
You may think you are, but like, that's what you went through.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And being okay with that. It's crazy, man. There was times on the journey, and I don't know if you felt like this, because I have a wife and I have a family too, but did you ever feel alone? Yes.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
So good, man. Like there's so many lessons here for the audience to pick up and listen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
As we land the plane, if you could look into that camera and give the audience your best piece of advice through everything that they're going on right now, whether it's a sports journey, a marital journey, a parenthood, or even just entrepreneurship, like what, what would, what's the best piece of advice you would give? Um, okay.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Mic drop. Thank you, brother. Hey, thank you so much for coming here to Florida with your family, seeing us and sitting here for a good amount of time, telling your story about your foundation and everything, man. It was truly impactful. I loved every minute of it. Thank you so much, dude. No, thank you for the opportunity. This is an opportunity and I appreciate it. Absolutely, man.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
So you guys heard it best. There's so many amazing moments within this episode with Marlon Jackson that I need you to do me a favor. I need you to share this episode with someone that you know, love and trust that we get the most out of the story.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It may be even a youth that's going through some things that he went through as a child, or maybe it's a parent that's going through some stuff or an entrepreneur or an athlete. It doesn't matter. Share this episode with someone you know, love and trust. Until next time, stay determined.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
See, that's what's tough, right? Like, and I want the audience to really key in on this. If you're watching, watch this. If you're listening, listen. Every person has a certain amount of trauma that they deal with within their life. I don't care who you are. Your life could look perfect on the outside, but there's some type of trauma.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And if that trauma is not dealt with, it is passed along to other members of a family or maybe even a spouse, right? The thing that I heard you say that resonated most, right, was, you know, my mom had some unresolved trauma and it caused her decision-making to be XYZ, thus my decision-making, my brother's decision-making, right?
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
You know, it helps me find some empathy for my parents right now in this moment, because I look at things for face value sometimes, right? Like, okay, this is what I'm getting from, excuse me. This is what I've got from my mom and my dad, but this is what I want. But I never took it a step further to be like, okay, but why is it not there? What did they go through?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And I think that's important to understand human beings.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
I struggle with that, not believing it. in the moment, right? I mean, dude, we're married men.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Yeah, right. Exactly. No, no, totally. No, what I'm saying is like, I'm with you. I'm tracking, but you know, like how do you, right? And cause this is something I'm asking you, right? Is how do you, in the moment, right? Because we all have, like you said, everybody has reasons why they're reacting a certain way, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
And how do we, as the person receiving that action, kind of filter down and stay in a point where we can actually respond instead of react?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
It's time to throw in the freaking towel. I can't do this on my own anymore. There was something in me that said, you know what, Sean? Blind faith. Just keep going. Release the next episode. And now I have amazing partners, amazing production team.
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From NFL Star to Youth Savior: Marlin Jackson’s Mission to Heal Trauma
Very good, man. And I appreciate that. When you go back to growing up, right, you're talking about certain decisions and kind of how you operated out in the world and society at school and everything. You were a football player, right? Yeah. But how did some of those things with your mom impact you and kind of the things that you did out there in the streets here in Pennsylvania? Yeah.
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Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
And it wasn't really like that behind the scenes.
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Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French, and just like always, an amazing guest. But before I introduce him, I need you to go follow the YouTube, Spotify, the Apple Podcast, and share this episode with someone that you know, love, and trust that would get a lot of value out of this.
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Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Yeah, that. Okay, alright. That was the best thing ever. So, you're playing Florida. Oh, yeah. It was at Florida, right? At a regional game. Okay, that's even... Yeah, four games away from Omaha. Four games away from the promised land. And you hit a home run.
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Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Was war das? Ich meine, offensichtlich waren deine Eltern da, dein Bruder war da.
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Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
And I want to hear you and understand what you love about the show. So on Spotify, you can leave me a comment, and it's me commenting back. So there's a little hack for you. Let's chat. Heute habe ich einen wunderschönen professionellen Athleten mit uns. Sein Name ist Cory Cubano. Einen echten Namen Cory G. Ich kann seinen letzten Namen nicht bezeichnen, weil es super ist.
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Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
An diesem Moment, hast du die Emotion bemerkt? Die echte Emotion. Jetzt bist du emotional. Hast du das Lächeln in deinem Auge, als es tatsächlich passiert ist? Or is it kind of looking back perspective?
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Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Ja, das ist das, was du nicht sofort realisierst. Wenn wir kreieren und wir sind authentisch und wir sind uns selbst, machen wir das, weil es uns heilt. Ich meine, das ist so, wie ich bin. Ich würde nicht sagen, dass wir, ich, wenn ich etwas rausnehme, wenn ich Gespräche wie diese habe, bin ich von meiner eigenen Erfahrung und von allem, was mit mir passiert ist. Und es hilft mir zu heilen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Und es ist okay, weil wir kommentieren. Wir haben darüber gesprochen vor dem Show. All right. Gib mir keine Scheiße darüber. Aber du weißt, er war ein College Baseball Spieler. Marshall University, then transferred to JU, and now he's a professional baseball player. He was with the Savannah Bananas up until recently. Now he's contracted to go play in a glow-in-the-dark league.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Aber in so einem authentischen Weg. Absolutely, man. I always tell like my...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Warum würdest du jemand anderes sein? Weißt du, ich denke, zu viele Leute verabschieden sich nicht von der limited edition, der One of One. Es gibt niemanden anderes wie dich. Es gibt vielleicht viele andere Leute, die Fußball spielen, aber niemand anderes hat die gleichen Fähigkeiten wie du. Nichts ist identisch. Ich bin einer von allen. Jeder, der jetzt hört, ist einer von allen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Du bist eine Verletzte. Und wenn du denkst, dass du nicht gut genug bist, ist das nur, weil du dich aufgrund von jemandem auf der rechten Seite von dir bestätigst. Du musst dich nach innen schauen und verstehen, die Gifte, die du hast, um die Welt zu bringen. Und das ist, wo die Macht kommt. Und wenn du das weißt, Nicht nur konzeptionell wissen, sondern eigentlich leben, atmen und es entdecken.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Ja. Die Welt und die Türen öffnen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Haben sie gerade erklärt, dass sie sich kämpfen? Ja. Okay, lass uns einfach darüber sprechen. Die Marketing-Fähigkeiten dieser Unternehmen. Ich habe meinen Bruder gesagt, das ist genius. Sie sind die besten Promoter je, Alter. Ja, ja. Der Moment, den ihr alle warten wart. Nur als du dachtest, dass der J. Tyson das Ding war. Ja. Jetzt werden die Brüder Trade-Shots handeln. Wie verrückt ist das?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Wie verrückt ist das?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Ich werde dich töten, Cory. Ich werde dich töten, Cory. No, you look like a lefty hitter, dude. You think so? Oh, hell yeah, dude. Well, I'm a baseball guy, right? It's like I see these things. I can look at you and be like, no, I ain't a pitcher. Because you're built like a hitter. There's a different build, man. Ja, genau. I don't like it. I don't like it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
So without further ado, Corey Cabana, welcome to the fucking show, dude.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
I feel like when they change rules, they are bending to the people that don't have a fucking attention span, that don't understand the game. It's like I'm a purist. I'm a purist, dude. Do not widen the bases for me. I don't care how long the game takes. I get that people are like, I don't want to watch a game. The header is grabbing his nuts, fits in his batting gloves. Remember Nomar Garcia-Para?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
But yeah, dude, I like that because anytime I can be watching a game or playing a game, Das ist für mich ein Entschluss. Ich mag es einfach nicht.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
You're in Miami. You're here in Naples. But dude, your schedule, man, it's crazy. My schedule's crazy. I'm just grateful you're sitting right here now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Es ist nicht das gleiche Spiel. Ich habe ein reales Show gemacht mit Peace of Grit Podcast, das ist mein Produktionsteams Podcast, way back in the day, maybe about a year ago, something that long ago, before they were even producing my show. Und wir kommen zu all dem. Und der Reel ging viral. Und ich hatte so viele Leute, die mich attackiert haben.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Wie, oh, dieser Kerl weiß klar nicht, worüber er spricht. Baseball ist furchtbar. Sie mussten das Spiel vergrößern. Das ist der Grund, warum Bananenball so populär ist. Halt, stopp. Herzstopp. Eine ganz andere Sache. Danke. Eine ganz andere Sache. Wenn du Bananenball brauchst, um zu gehen. Ich meine, ich nehme meinen Sohn. Februar 14. Wir gehen. Es wird Spaß machen. But it's different.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
It's a whole different game. You can't even compare it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
It's not the same. It's a show.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
This is what people say. They're trying to keep up with Banana Ball. And I think that's the problem. And they're not. At first they can't. Because it's completely different. It's again apples and freaking oranges here. But for someone who needs banana ball to enjoy baseball... Es ist ein völlig anderes Publikum. Es ist ein völlig anderes Publikum.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Well, dude, it's just, dude, it's on brand, man. I was a ball player myself, you know. Absolutely. Didn't get to quite take it to where you have. But for the audience that doesn't know Corey G, Why don't you give them a little peek behind the curtain, man?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Ja, und ich denke, eine Teil der Sache, die mich verrückt, ist, dass ich nicht verstehen kann, was Leute sagen, Baseball ist furchtbar. Weil sie in ein normales Baseballspiel gehen können oder es auf dem TV sehen. Das ist so langsam. Was sie nicht konzeptualisieren können, ist, wenn ich zurückkomme und sage, dass es auf dem Feld schnell geht. Es ist ein schnelles Spiel.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Du bist nicht mehr mit Bananen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Yeah, no, it's great. And dude, it brings the families together. They have fun. They include the kids. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
I would have never said that on air if I didn't know it was okay. Yeah, I know.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Dude, so like, let me ask you a question. Because I'm a baseball guy, I'm like logistically thinking like, well, how can you read the ball out of the hand? Like, how is this safe?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
What's your team?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
This is where it was created.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Ja, ja. Wow, okay.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Ist das der Unterschied? Der Unterschiedmacher ist der kompetitive Aspekt?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Ich fange im April ab.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Nicht viel Frühtraining. Ich glaube, du wirst in der Dunkelheit trainieren.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Well, I mean, not normal is good. Yeah, yeah. Not normal is good. You know, like, here's the thing, dude. And I want to... All these amazing things that you're talking about, the success and being yourself and you have these opportunities, you know, with the Banana Ball organization and now the Cosmic Chili Peppers. It's amazing shit, but it doesn't come without adversity.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
There was something that I think you maybe have told me, but there was a moment where you were
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Look what I do with these things.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Eine letzte Frage für dich, Mann. Everything you've been through, the thing at Marshall, you know, the injury with, I can't even pronounce it. Ankylosing spondylitis. How about bamboo spine? We'll go there. With everything you've had, you've had to have an extreme amount of desire and determination. How did determination dictate how you operated every day to get to where you're at right now?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Like, how's this going to serve me, right? So I think that's a great, dude, those are great points. And that's where I want the audience to kind of just, Und ich möchte, dass jeder versteht, dass jeder in seinem Leben durch Scheiß geht. Keiner kann wirklich ehrlich sagen, dass es schön muss. Wir gehen alle durch unsere Scheiße. Wir sind alle auf der Grinde. Wir sind alle entscheidend.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Und wir drücken wirklich auf Dinge, die wir wollen. Aber das eine, was ich sagen würde, ist, wenn Dinge zu dir passieren, Anstatt die Gefängnis-Mentale zu nehmen, oh, ich bin schuld, oder warum passiert mir das wieder? Denk daran, wie mir das dient, und wie kann ich anderen in der Mitte dienen?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Und wie viel besser werde ich, wenn ich davon rauskomme, damit ich einen Einfluss in diesem Weltraum machen kann? Das ist, was ich euch heute wirklich herausnehmen möchte. Dieser Mann, er wird weiterhin tolle Dinge machen. Es gibt große Dinge, die von ihm kommen, über die wir nicht sprechen können. Just keep watching. Go follow this man at Corey Cubano. His Instagram will be in the link.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Go watch him play and really connect with him because he's an amazing dude. And guys, until next time, stay determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
During that time, he found ways to still put his brand out. He was being innovative and it led finally, not after one year or one video, sorry, literally two years of doing that. He got a tryout. Didn't make it, waited for the expansion, but he just didn't wait. He continued to make videos, honing his craft. My point to you guys is, you don't have to get ready if you stay ready.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Also bist du von J.U. am Fußballspieler. Ja. Du hast deinen Identitätsschiff als Manager verändert.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Es ist ein Fastball.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
That's determination, that's what the show's about. So what are you gonna do, fold your chin up and go home and cry? Dude, this is amazing.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Lass mich, lass mich, ich möchte, ich möchte einen Moment pausieren, weil ich möchte, dass der Publikum etwas aufsteht. Ja. Also es wäre mir schlecht, nicht zurückzukommen zu diesem Thema. Ja. Jetzt, während es prudent ist. Audience, I want you to understand something.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
This man played Division One Baseball at a very high level and then was exited from the game and wasn't too proud to go manage a first watch restaurant. During that time, he found ways to still put his brand out. He found ways that he can showcase himself. And what I heard from you, Corey, was like, it didn't matter. You're asking somebody at the park to film you. You put it on a tripod.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
He was being innovative. And it led finally, not after one year or one video, sorry, or one month, literally two years of doing that. He got a tryout, didn't make it, waited for the expansion, but he just didn't wait. He worked in the background. See, he continued to make videos, honing his craft, getting in better shape. And he was ready.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
So like my point to you guys is like, you don't have to get ready if you stay ready. And he's epitome of that. And now you're still in it, man. Absolutely. That's determination. That's what the show is about. Yeah. So what are you gonna do? Fold your chin up and go home and cry? Absolutely.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Ich liebe deine, Alter, weißt du, was ich, die eine Sache, die mir auf den Kopf kommt, wenn ich die Geschichte höre und mich besser kennenlerne, ist, Alter, du bist ein fucking Visionär. Ja. Und viele Visionäre, ich halte mich für einen Visionär, richtig? Und viele Visionäre sind oft missverstanden und unterappreizt, richtig?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Und ich denke, es ist, weil, du weißt, aus der Außenperspektive ist es wie, es ist ein Threat. Wie, du bist ein Threat an diesem Punkt. Ja. Wie, du warst ein Threat. Oh, ja. Ja, natürlich. Ja, natürlich.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Glow in the Dark Success: Cory Cubano's Unseen Struggles and Triumphs
Skip. Unglaublich. Ich habe 50 Dollar an einem Camp oder an seinem Badezimmer gemacht. Ich meine, Skip Burtman ist legendär. Ja. Ich war nicht going to say no to Skip. Ja. Ich gewinne und ich bin in Angst. Das ist verrückt. Es war eine Woche.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
yo listen up if you run an e-commerce business you already know shipping is a beast when i released my book i thought the hard part was done until i spent hours every day printing labels boxing products and standing in line at the post office that's when i realized my time is way too valuable ship station changed everything it lets you automate your shipping print branded labels from home
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I don't think there's enough focus and importance labeled on family dinners or family breakfast or who's sitting at the table anymore.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's all we do. Can I start? Nope. No. You're going to wait until everybody gets there.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like, dude, like. If you can be present with your kids and they know that you're fully there with them. Right. They're going to give you that grace when you have to be.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
What's your favorite part about when you ask them a question? You know how kids, man, they just go, right? Give me one of your kids, one of the things that they do that you're just like, oh, my God, I'm so happy I asked this question. Now I get to hear you talk.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Yeah, that's pretty cool, yeah. I just love—because I'm, like, in my mind, I'm thinking through, like, the whole movie here, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
the time when your ex-husband was around, then during the divorce and the fact there was a point where he was trying to take your kids completely. We'll get to that, right? But now you have a good dude in your life who's stressing the importance of family dinners.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Bro, that's fucking amazing. I know. And that shows your children now that this man is treating them their mom with respect and value, not just that, but valuing them too. And I think that's, you know, really hard when you get into like blended families and things of that nature. So it's like, have you, have you just noticed them just opening up during dinner?
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like, like obviously in stages, right? Cause before, like if you weren't doing it before, now all of a sudden you're doing, it's like, why are we doing this mom?
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
He's back in it now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
that's amazing because you broke a cycle.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You know, everybody talks about cycles, right? And like if it, and then obviously there was a movie out there. It ends, it ends with me or ends with us or something like that.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I've heard about that. I guess there's controversy about that now. I think I bring that up with Blake Lively and Justin Baldani.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It's getting old. We're not going to touch on that. No. Maybe, maybe, maybe we will. I don't know, but you know, it ends with us. And I think the big lesson there is, is like when, when, when, I was treated a certain way as a kid, you know, or, or anybody, right? Like we have to look at what that's going to do to the next generation.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Sarah French, what up? the pain inspire me i put my all in everything i'm doing up until it's done i'm me for the entirety i'm putting over time i'll be working just know i'ma go for mine because i earned it they watching i know it's time i confirmed it the whole society determined
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You know, so are we going to break generational curses or are we going to add to them? So like, you know, for you, you know, when you made that transition out of your marriage, like there was a point in that, in that decision-making and, and for me too, cause I, this is my second marriage. Okay. Okay. So for me, you know, I don't talk about it enough. I probably should.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So the audience understands more, but you know, I'm not ready to, I'll talk about things and I'm ready. And I think me saying that this is my second marriage is the first time I've ever said it on air. Um, you know, so I said to myself at one point, I'm like, am I the man that I want to be in this specific marriage right now? And the answer was no. and not placing blame on anybody.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
My ex wife and I are like really good friends now. And my wife and her are close and I adore her. I love her to death. And the thing is, is like, I'm not, not just that I'm not the man I want to be, but what are my children going to learn from me? It has to end now. And I have to cut it off now and have to go through the pain of the divorce and the timeshare, the fucking timeshare, dude. Come on.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's hard. But it was done for the betterment of them long term.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like, oh, I'm like, that's hard.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
They're excited. They get two Christmases.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It makes it different. It makes it different. But, like, I can really relate. I can sympathize with that. Yes. Like, no one really... no one really understands what divorcees are going through when there's kids involved, unless they've been through it themselves. Right.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It is like due to a point where I'm like, yeah, no, I can't ever not be in this marriage because there's no way I can not be with my son. Oh, Right? Like, there's no way I can be with my daughter. Like, whoa, like now though, you know, we're, you know, it's equal amount of time. And it's like, and there's, there's people, I know there's people watching right now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like, no, you know, marriage, you know, you, you don't get divorced. You stick it out. Those kids are suffering. You don't fuck you're talking about. It's an ideology. Yeah. Right. And I think that that ideology to me is like, OK, well, my children can grow up in this home that it's contentious and then grow to hate both their parents and then have messed up relationships on their own.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Or I can break the cycle.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. And before I introduce today's guest, please do me a favor, hit subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple, and make yourself this promise that you're going to share this episode with someone that you know, love, and trust that needs to hear the message today.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
See, I like what you just said there. that you didn't have this career before, that you have now. Walk the audience through that, right? Because this conversation's flying by and it's amazing. And there's a bunch of descriptors in there of how dark and contingent it may have been. But let's talk about the things that came out of it, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So now your career, you're like one of the top luxury real estate agents in Houston, Texas. How has the freeing of that energy helped you grow your career?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But you did the work to get that self-worth back, right? Like, explain that to the audience because it's like a lot of people say like, hey, you know, don't put your self-worth in another person. That's not what you were doing.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's not what you were doing.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
How did you get that back yourself?
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Once again, I always appreciate...
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I love it. It's so funny. Cause I'm sitting here looking up at the ceiling and smiling because when you go through shit like that, that's the heavy lift. Like that is like when you are feeling emotionally, that is when you're feeling in your soul, your body hurts. It almost hurts physically to make that next good decision of waking up in the morning, eating the right food.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
ratings comments whatever i love to know what you love about the show i love to know where we can get better too so always here to hear your feedback so today i have an amazing guest from houston texas her name is heather shepherd and she is an absolute badass she's overcome so many things in her life recently she had a life-altering event that happened a divorce she was married and
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
No, you just want the pizza. No, you want to lay there and be a bum. You want to feel fucking sorry for yourself. You want to be depressed because that's how you're feeling currently. But when you work through those and you come out strong, You know, like that's what you've done, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So now anything that you have to deal with, contractual issues, buyer issues, seller issues, how easy is that to deal with now?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I think it's one thing to say it, right? To tell a kid, you can be anything you want. You can do this. You can do that. So all you parents out there, you're telling your kids they can be or do anything or have anything they want, be, do, have. The fuck are you doing? Because if you're not doing it, then they are not going to follow you. I'm looking right at you because I've been there.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I've been there. I cannot talk about discipline and determination when my body was a fat, fluffy mess. I can't because I wasn't controlling in that one area. But now that I do control the one area and things are starting to grow professionally now, everything comes together. And now your kids are saying, wow, I could do that. So you either say to your kids, right, you can do this.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You can be or have anything you want or you can show them how the hell to do it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But you're doing that. Like, that's the thing that I want you to understand. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the point. It's like, you know, yes, you know, you're out of this marriage. You're out of like all this other shit. But what you're really showing your daughter and your two sons is like, mom can fucking rock it. And mom can rock it.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And she can smile and keep her chest up and her head up through all this stuff. Like, dude, why can't I? So like there's going to be, there was moments I'm going to tell you right here, because the audience that doesn't know her daughter's a freshman and was on varsity basketball and they won a district championship.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
There was times during that year that she just won the district championship that she wanted to give up. I'm going to tell you right now, because that's the way things are, especially as a young adolescent. And there was something whispering to her not to, and it probably was the fact that she saw you persevere out of that situation.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Tell me about her drive. What does it look like?
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And it was not a pretty situation for her in a sense of dealing with a narcissist. And she has broken free from those chains and she's out there killing it in motherhood and in business. So without further ado, Heather Shepard, welcome to the show.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It's learned behavior. You know, it's funny because, you know, I'm listening to you, but I'm also watching every move. Like that's the one thing that people don't understand because I'm very incognito about it. I see what you did when you got here. Right. Cause you posted it. I saw what you did this morning because you posted it. You were up, you were at the gym. You got a quick one in like,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
you're living it, right? So you can say it with your chest, right? Like you're living out loud. And I, and, and those are the things that kids pick up on. So as I always think, and I, you know, I don't know who coined this phrase. I didn't, but I use it because I love it. And if I remembered who said it, I would quote you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I'm sorry if you're listening and I don't know it, but like the best lessons aren't taught, they're caught. So everything that your child sees you doing is teaching them more of a lesson than you telling them something.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So, you know, what are my kids watching me do? They wake up in the morning, what am I doing? I'm drenched in sweat making their breakfast.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So what's your move? What's your move when you're older? Like, what are you going to do?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like, that to me is... showing them something and they're catching lessons. Have you ever thought of it like that?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Everything you're doing, they're watching. They are watching. You may not know it, but they are stalking your ass. And they're finding the holes, right? Because this is what the kids do, especially the 14-year-old.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Okay. And then your 12-year-old, maybe not your 10-year-old yet, but your 14 and 12-year-old are trying to find the chink in your armor. Where are the holes so I can exploit them when I'm in trouble and throw it back? And if you don't have them, if you don't show them, they can't. Right. But if you just display determination, grit, resiliency. Yes. Like that's what they're going to learn.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I'm jacked you're here.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So what they what they find is they start looking for your holes, but only find all the light.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And Jack, you're an amazing human being. And so I just remember, you know, for the audience listening, it's so funny how connections are made, right? You sent me a direct message, I don't know, a couple months ago, really. And it was just, you know, it was so sincere and sweet. And I'm like, I got to, I'm going to respond. I'm going to respond to this.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And then they gravitate to that and then that becomes them.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's how you keep them from getting behind the wheel drunk.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So like I, it's funny cause my wife and I talk about this all the time is, and we tell this to our, you know, to Bobby who's 11. It's like, Hey, look, as you get older, you're going to be, you know, things are going to be in your face. Like you're going to be out potentially at a party.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
If something goes on, I need you to be comfortable enough to call me and we're not going to yell at you no matter what you did, but we're gonna have a conversation. Not that night, but in the morning, but I'd rather you make it home alive.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like that's heavy, right? It's so heavy. But in these formative years, 14, 12, and 10, displaying rational behavior when you hear something from them, like if you never overreact to something, okay. And then you can be that calming voice and be their peace so they feel they can be honest with you. Like that's where that real relationship comes from.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Because there's life going on, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
There's life going on constantly.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Two years apart. It's like bang, bang, bang.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So, okay. So let's start tying in the career now. Walk me in the audience through what having a successful real estate business means to you at this point in your life. Because it's not just about the money.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And you know, it was just, you were wanting to come onto the show. And the one thing that I really loved about your approach was it was kind, it was gentle, but also unapologetic of wanting to get your story out. Right. So you applied to be on the show and here you are.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Yeah. My mom went through the same thing.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
She did, man. So, you know, she, you know, she's had multiple marriages, but, um, the, my dad, he was, He's my dad.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
They ended up getting a divorce. And before that, she had never been able to live on her own. Never had to.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And she's killing it. She bought her own home. You know, she's gone through two hip replacement surgeries, two knee replacement surgeries. And this woman, you know, her perspective, I love you, mom, but your perspective sometimes is fucked up. Right. She still has that poor me type mentality at times, just being honest, but she fights through it. She's a fighter. She's determined. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So it's like for you and you're sitting there saying like, I can support myself. I can support my own life. I can support my kids. I can do this. There's, there's audience people right now listening that don't understand that they don't understand what you said because they think, well, why wouldn't you be able to?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Explain to them, like enlighten them because they need to understand what you went through and what this actually means.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So for the audience that doesn't know your whole story, why don't you start by telling them a little bit about who you are, what you do, then just briefly start going into the story of the reason why you're here today.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
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The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Cause it was never about you bettering yourself. It was about you being able to stand on your own two feet.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Health insurance, food on the table.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Such a simplistic thing, right? Isn't that weird? Like this whole thing brought out the freedom to choose.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You get the choice to live what life you want to live and to provide for your family, your children. Right. Wild shit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Right? No, like truly. Because like if nobody's gone through what you've gone through, they don't get it. But now I think they have a little bit of an idea. Like you get to choose now. Right? Without consequence.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
The only consequence is a positive one. Right? Your children get to see this. And then your boyfriend gets to fall in love with that over and over and over again every day. That is a powerful situation. And you're an avid worker outer too. You love soul cycle.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Yeah. You love your weights.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So you pour into yourself like multiplier. That's my point, right? It's like you, you go to your soul cycle and then you also have a personal trainer that you, you know, go lift weights with twice a week. So you're consistently pouring back into yourself. How freeing was that?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You don't have to ask permission.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And your girl just won a district championship.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Well, you were stuck in a place of lacking. Right now, you're in a place of growth. You're in a place of yes.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Yes. I can do that, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I think that's important because that's when you're truly living.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
The 40s are still young, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
We're still spring chickens.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I'm just figuring out who I am.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I remember when I was a kid thinking like 42 was old.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And so that, but that's when the first ever The Determined Society was recorded when I was 42 years old.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And this, so I'm 46 now this month. I think it's maybe tomorrow. Wait, or the 27th. I'd have to look at that. It is the four year anniversary of the show.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But that was a pivot I did at 42. And it wasn't the only thing I did. Now, recently, now this is the only thing I do, right? But before that, it was like, you know, I was a baseball coach and a teacher. I was a sales rep. And now I'm doing, now I'm shifting to this. But it was a hard pull. It was like something inside me was just like, like,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
trying to come out and I was like okay I gotta explore this I gotta figure out what it is I'm probably gonna suck no one's gonna listen right that was like one of the first the first episode was like if you're listening, thank you. I don't know who's going to listen.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And the vision for the show was so small, but as things continue and the consistency happened and there were some breaks in between, right? Because it was, there was frustration, there was depression, there was, you know, anxiety. There was a lot of different things that happened in the last four years that I finally got a hold on over the last year and a half.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And then ever since then, it's been like Lightspeed ahead. Yeah. Right. But, but again, at 42, I made that move. I chose differently and I lost a lot of people along the way.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Everybody thinks it's cool until it's serious. Right. Everything is cool. Oh, that's cute. Yeah. You can speak here. You can do that. But then when all the attention comes like, whoa, wait a second. You can't be a part of XYZ anymore because your focus is here, right? I fully intended to continue with my sales career and do this.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But what I found out is corporate America don't like that. They don't like it. No. They don't like it because of what you may say. It may represent them. So now I'm just my own dude.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I'm just my own dude now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So happy. So happy. At times, it's still hard. It's still hard sometimes. It's stressful. But I would rather have that and know that I can fully control what I do, then, you know, have my life sitting in somebody else's hands.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But you can surely attest to that yourself because that's what you've done with your life.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Damn. Damn. What do you love most about real estate?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I'm not surprised. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It's so funny because like the first thing you said was watching your clients get settled in their new home. How much of that is a personal one for you because of what you went through? You like seeing it in other people. You got to go deeper more often on yourself, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Think about it. So you're reliving your wins through these other people. And that is a great way. That is a great way to live, you know, through other people. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's a nice vicarious win.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Because it reminds you of what you've done and now you're giving it to other people. That's a gift. That's a gift, dude. So much. I'm getting goosebumps.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Most people love selling the house because they can provide financially for their families. And yeah, they get the cool photo op with the people. Neat. You know, this will help you sell the next house. Right. But you're, but you're, it's different for you on a, on a, on a, on a physical level. You're feeling it differently.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But you don't realize it until I bring it up. So now next time it happens. And when you see somebody like physiologically, you're going to feel that feeling. And that is why you're having so many great things come to you because your mind doesn't know whether it's happening to somebody else or happening to you. Has no clue. It can't judge.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But if you visualize the feeling that you have when you're selling the house and seeing the people and feeling that emotional state, your brain doesn't know that that's a simulation. It has no idea. So it, so it's real. And so that you vibrate on a certain level and that's what comes to you because there's no other way. Cause that's the only thing you're looking for. Yeah. That's true.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You're doing a lot of cool shit, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I can tell you walked into first watch and you were lit up. I'm like, damn, I better get on my game. Cause she's, she's coming in here like a fucking spark plug.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Don't forget after the show, you still got to ask me those, all these things. So as we land the plane here, 2024 was about consistency for you. What is 2025 about?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's a door to door solar panel sale shit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But even if you did, it'd be whatever.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
The point is, is you're out there doing it. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
This is interesting because, and I want, I want to take a pause real quick and I want the, I want all moms and dads to listen. When you're going through making a decision, you know, for that's going to change the lives of not just yourself, but your children. There has to be the fair trade, right? Like what's this going to cost me, but what's the reward, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You can't expect growth and not do uncomfortable things. Right. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's really awesome. I love that word growth. You know, I love the fact that you have, Something tied to it, though, right? Because some people say, yeah, I want to sell X many houses, right? Well, how are you going to get there? What are your KPIs? How many doors do you have to knock on? How many calls do you have to make? How many listing appointments do you need?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
How many buyer meetings do you need? How many houses do you have to show? I go on and on and on and on.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But I think the big thing is when you have a set plan, like this is what growth looks like to me this year, right? then it's attainable, right? And as long as we stay disciplined in our own life, your morning routine, whatever. Like the morning routine we were talking about. Yes. Morning routine's cool.
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Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
There's a lot of IGers out there like, oh, my morning routine, I walk for 45 minutes, then I breathe for another 30 minutes, then... I have a walk with my wife and we have 17 cups of coffee. And by one, I start working and I made $9 million last month.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Fuck off. Like, shut the fuck up. You're lying. Okay. Really? What the morning routine does is just get you to keep your word to yourself.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So I don't care what your morning routine is. Like, you know, there's a lot. I wake up at four. And I'm in the gym by four 30, not because I want to, or I think I have to. It's just like in my schedule with everything I have going on with the three children wanting to spend time with my wife and my kids, extracurriculars, my son has baseball. My girls have gymnastics.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like it's the only time I could do it. Yes. Right. So my morning routine is about executing things that I say I'm going to do. And so if, if someone else is, I need to wake up at seven and I need to read 15 pages, then yes, then that's what you do. That's your morning routine. It doesn't have to be groundbreaking.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It just has to be like something that you said you were going to do and you stick to it. And so I think that's like an important lesson. So as we wrap up, the one question I have for you, obviously this is the Determined Society. What does determination mean to you and how have you applied it to your last two years?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So why don't you walk the audience through that pain? Because you talked about, you know, you just couldn't live like that anymore. And in fact, you know, you told me at one point, like, I'm going to die if I keep living like this. So let's connect that with the audience and let them know the things that you were going through.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Yeah. It's so funny because I look at, you know, motivation. I look at determination and then I, and I like to, I like to think of this as like, it's doing what you say you're going to do long after the emotion wears off.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It's easy to get excited about getting in shape. It's easy to get excited about being a top luxury realtor. It's easy to get excited about having a top 10 podcast. It's easy to get excited about it. But what happens when that emotion wears off? What are you going to do? So thank you so much for coming on today.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Absolutely. Coming all this way. This episode was awesome.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You did so good. I appreciate you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Give everybody where they can find you on Instagram or your website.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
What's your website?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
There you have it. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for listening and watching on YouTube or Spotify. Please don't forget to send this episode to somebody that you know would get a bunch out of it, but hit the like button, hit the subscribe, leave a review. Until next time, stay determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Shout out French. What up? This one's luck. I let the pain inspire me. I put my all in everything I'm doing. Up until it's done, I'm me for the entirety. I put in overtime. I be working. Just know I'm a gopher, man, because I earned it. They watching. I know it's time. I confirmed it. The whole society determined.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So that way they can understand your story more than, hell, you could be a beacon of hope for them.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That day you're like, I'm just done. It's funny. You mentioned your daughter. Yeah. but you know what I also find very interesting too. And my wife sent me this real earlier today. It was like, as a, as a man, as a father, right. It is our job to lead in the household from the standpoint of the daughters, right. And from the daughters of like daughters get their confidence from their father.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And like, the little boys learn how to treat women from watching their dad. So it's not just about your daughter. It's about what was going on in that home that your sons were going to see. Then eventually, if they were around it enough, that's how they would treat women.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's some fucked up shit, isn't it?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Now you mentioned violence. So it got physical at one point then, right? Well, just like...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like throwing shit, breaking shit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It's a form of intimidation, though, right? And it is a form of abuse.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It's really hard. Like how, when you were going through those moments of walking on eggshells and just living in a constant state of fight or flight, how did you manage that?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
That's incredible. I want everybody listening, whether you're a woman or a man, just know that you living in your home and being worried about potentially What's going to happen next, right? Waiting for that next shoe to drop. It's not a way to live, right? It's not a way to live. And you can't thrive if you don't feel peace in your own home.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So I think the word peace is very applicable to many things we do outside the home, whether it's building a podcast, being a successful realtor, a great school teacher, or even a car salesman. You have to have some peace inside. in order to be fully functional out there in society and to be able to thrive, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
The one thing I remember you saying was, you know, multiple times, but even just then, and when you were speaking was now you're able to have a successful real estate career. Explain to the audience what that means because they're saying, well, why couldn't she before?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Dude, it's funny because I think moms in general, and I think good dads, I don't think it's gender specific. I want to be very clear.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Because I deal with a lot of dad guilt. I deal with a lot of dad guilt. Yes. And so does my wife, right? Mom guilt. Yes. And you clearly have mom guilt too. It's a real thing. So parents listening is like, listen, as long as you are out there trying to better yourself so you can be... whole for your family, then don't feel guilty.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Like if the kid has to go to aftercare one day or somebody else has to pick the kid up, like, is it really going to be earth shattering? Now what would suck is like, if you just didn't plan for that and then you couldn't get to pick your kid up and they're sitting there at the like the, you know, pick up like, fuck, where's mom? Where's dad? Like that's mortifying.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
The one thing I remember you saying was now you're able to have a successful real estate career. Explain to the audience what that means, because they're saying, well, why couldn't she before?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But like, I just, the, the, the parent, the parental guilt, like I go through it a lot because my phone goes off. I mean, we had breakfast together. You saw my phone going at ape shit the whole fricking time. Like, but there's some things that I do have to answer.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So it's like walk the audience through how you deal with, you know, the, the, the parental guilt, because like, it's a real thing, but also it's, Is it necessary?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
I'm with that, right? Because everybody talks about balance, right? If you talk about balance and I'm like eight hours at work, eight hours with my child, eight hours in the gym, eight hours reading, eight hours with God, like you cannot do that. Really what we're searching for is how can you be present in those moments?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So if it's like every Thursday night now and it's Thursday, right? Yes.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So, like, for me, I know I get to go with a walk with my... oldest daughter tonight. That's our thing on Thursday nights. We go, we go in the neighborhood, go for 15, 20 minutes. It's my time to connect with her. And last week when we did, it was the first week, right? Because I do, I do realize like she needs one-on-one.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
She needs me one-on-one.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
And so does my daughter, my, my six-year-old daughter, right? My son, he can thrive at baseball, but sometimes he wants to mess around and play some PlayStation with dad.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
It's all good. But, but, but, you know, having that time, I left my phone. And, and like the, there's this thing, the box that we have, we put our phones in there and not enough. We don't do it enough. We need to put them, put them in there a lot more freaking often.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So I have my phone in there and I come back and my wife goes, Hey, I texted. I'm like, yeah, I didn't take it. She goes, wow. Because that right there, that 15, 20 minutes, my daughter's not going to view that as 15, 20 minutes. She's going to view that as the highlight of her fucking day.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
Because I was focused on her. I didn't have the stupid Apple watch. I didn't have my phone on me. It was just there being there with her, talking to her, right? And so that's great. Like, hey, listen, you know, sometimes you can't do one-on-one.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
But when you when you do have that time with your children and it's family dynamics. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
So if you're there by yourself and you have three kids, how can you do one on one with all three when you got.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Divorce Didn’t Break Her, It Built Her
You got them all to yourself. Right. But it's it's being present at dinner. Like to me, dinner is non-negotiable. Like, no, we're sitting down like no one's from the outside can penetrate these 40 minutes right here. Because I think one of the biggest things, and then I'll let you go is let you talk is, you know, in society today, I don't think there's enough.
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It's amazing. The fact that they're going there and getting a great football education from CFL players und dann du, ein NFL-Spieler, aber die akademische Seite davon und die Dinge, die sie voll machen, weit über den Sport. Weil ich denke, wo Leute verloren gehen, und ich weiß, dass das wahr ist, weil ich es gesehen habe, und es ist besonders verrückt im Fußball.
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Eltern werden verdammt verloren, Bro. Sie verlieren ihre Kinder. Es muss so sein. Sie müssen 1.000 Spiele pro Jahr spielen. Meine Kinder müssen gesehen werden. Sie müssen rekrutiert werden. Aber sie lehren den Kindern nicht die anderen Sachen. Und der Fakt, dass deine Foundation auf die Grundlagen eines wunderschönen Menschen ist, Bildung, Nahrung. All that kind of stuff.
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Like, dude, that's going to help them outside of the sport.
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Also follow at the Sean French on Instagram, S-H-A-W-N, and at The Determined Society. So today, ladies and gentlemen, Ich habe mit mir jemanden, der vor vier Quartalen dieses Jahr im Superbowl gespielt hat. Er ist der startende defensive Back für die Washington Commanders. Mein Mann, Benjamin St. Jude. Was ist los, Alter? Was ist los, ich freue mich auf dich.
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It's fascinating, dude. It's fascinating. Because as a parent and then also as a coach, as a coach of baseball for many years, when you do a camp, you want those parents to see their kids light up when they come out of that camp. Like happy and fulfilled and armed with knowledge.
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And a lot of times it's just focused on the technical aspects of the sport, which is only a fraction of who they, it's not even who they are, it's what they do. Being a football player is not who you are. It's something that you do. Just like this is something I do. This is my profession. This is my job. It's not who I am. It's part of what makes me who I am.
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I think a lot of people get lost in that. Come on, man. I have. Have you ever had moments where you got lost in that?
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You're just Benjamin. That identity shift, right? I used to call it the identity crisis. I did a TED Talk on it. About my shift from being a collegiate baseball player at LSU, which is pretty much a professional baseball player. You get a lot of exposure there. And then, you know, the last house recorded, you're in, you know, 2003 in the College World Series in Omaha, Nebraska.
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Like, wait a second. What now? Like, who am I? I went on this journey of just burning bridges, hurting people because I was this massive void inside of me, right? I was just in so much pain. But the things that I've noticed lately is, you know, you touched on mental health, right, for those kids.
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Building the brand while you're in the actual peak part of your career, so that way you do have that pivot thereafter. I think it's so important.
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Danke, dass du mich kennengelernt hast, Mann. Ich bin froh, dass du hier bist. Es ist so lustig, du weißt nie, wer von dir fünf Türen runter geht, richtig? Fünf Türen runter. Ich habe es später herausgefunden. Ehrlich gesagt, als ich dir vorher gesagt habe, als ich nur gesagt habe, hi, weil du in der Nähe warst, war ich so, hey, was geht, Mann?
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Nein, der Lockerraum ist das Beste. Wir lernen viel über das Leben. In den Tränchen von Fußball oder Sport, Baseball, was auch immer der Sport ist. Aber zu deinem Punkt, wenn du fertig bist, wenn ich fertig war, war es so, als ich mein Resümee schrieb, 2003, College World Series, SEC-Champion. Du hast keine Erfahrung. Ja, du hast keine. Bro, was wolltest du von mir machen?
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Ich konnte nicht arbeiten, weil es illegal war. Ich wurde verabschiedet, um in einem Baseballcamp für meinen Haupt-Baseball-Coach zu arbeiten. Du, ich wurde verabschiedet, weil ich 50 Dollar verdient habe. Es ist verrückt. Es ist verrückt, Ben. You have no experience. Like, wait a second. I just did all this. I just did all this. Like, you know, what I was supposed to do.
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And now I'm not valued in society. And I think, and I know that's where a lot of mental health issues do happen for collegiate athletes. But even, but more so like Major League Baseball players or NBA players or NFL players, because they've gone an extended amount of time outside of college. And that's what they did. And they were known on a national level or world global level.
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And now they're just... Someone who doesn't have experience.
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Und ich versuche, mit dir zu sprechen, weil ich mit jedem spreche. Du wirst das sehen. Ich spreche mit meinen Häusern. Ich bin der Typ, der mit jedem spricht. Und dann sagt jemand, hey, hast du gewusst, dass er für die Kommandanten spielt? Ich bin so, ja. No way!
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Absolut. Athleten verstehen, dass Führung mehr eine Zusammenarbeit ist als ein Erzählen. Ja. Und ich denke, viele Leute, die keinen hohen Sport gespielt haben, denken, dass Führung das Managieren ist.
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1000%, 1000%, because it's like, you may consult with everybody, but at the end of the day, you might do what you're gonna do, but at least everybody feels heard, right? Everybody feels heard, and everybody collaborated in that final decision, it is what it is, right? The big thing, man, is why I think athletes are so... so erfolgreich, außer Sport, ist, weil wir den Spiel laufen.
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Wie du gesagt hast, 5 Uhr aufstehen, 6 Uhr aufstehen, meinen Körper füllen, meine Rückkehr machen. Ich schaue mich an meinen Tag, und ich weiß, dass ich um 4 Uhr aufstehe. Ich nehme meinen Kaffee, ich bin im Gym um 4.30 Uhr. Von 4.30 Uhr bis 4.50 Uhr, bin ich auf einem Abstand. Von 4.50 Uhr bis 5.45 Uhr, lege ich auf. Wenn ich nach Hause komme, schicke ich 6.15 Uhr. Ich habe alles,
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Und meine Frau weiß das nicht, weil sie denkt, dass ich unorganisiert bin. Ich bin ziemlich unorganisiert mit einigen Dingen. Ich sage es dir jetzt, ich bin ein Messer in vielen Bereichen. Aber ich weiß von der Zeit, in der ich morgens aufwache, jeden einzelnen Zeitpunkt, was ich tue. Und dann weiß ich, dass ich um 6.40 Uhr auf der Straße bin, um die Kinder für die Schule bereit zu machen.
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Ich habe bereits ihr Frühstück gemacht, ihre Frühstücke gemacht, nachdem ich mich gerettet habe. Aber jetzt habe ich alles gemacht. Und ich werde ihnen helfen, aus der Tür zu kommen. Und dann beginnt mein Tag.
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Und ja, als Athleten werden wir gelernt, es zu verdrängen, richtig? Und Athleten gehen durch eine massive Anzahl von Schwierigkeiten. Ich denke, jetzt ist es ein guter Kind von Segway hin zu, okay, du weißt, Kanada zu Michigan, spielte für Harbaugh, spielte dein früheres Jahr, viele Schnaps, viele Schnaps, richtig? Ja. Und dann gab es da ein bisschen Schwierigkeit, richtig?
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Gehen alle durch dein früheres Jahr, dann ein bisschen Schwierigkeit und dann transferieren zu Minnesota, dann letztendlich dritter Rundspiel, Mann. Was war diese Reise wie?
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Dude, Rudy's great.
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Yeah, you're doing great.
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Rudi ist großartig, er ist hysterisch. Aber du, die Nachbarschaft, es ist lustig, weil deine Frau einen guten Job macht. Sie macht einen guten Job in der Nachbarschaft, stoppt und spricht. Congratulations, baby girl.
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Das, was ich am liebsten von der Geschichte liebe, ist nicht, dass du in Minnesota ein gutes Jahr in 2019 hattest und als Dritter-Rounder eingeladen wurdest. Mein Lieblingspunkt der Geschichte ist, wie du dich mit diesem Herz beschäftigt hast. Wie hast du dich mit dem Bullshit befasst?
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19, das ist passiert, 19 Jahre alt, richtig? Das ist es, was ich wollen, dass sie entdecken, weil es jetzt Adoleszen sind, die in ihrem Scheiß sitzen. Drowning in it, right? And I've been there before. And I'm not for you watching, I'm pointing at you and you listening. I want you to take this into your ear holes. I'm not calling you out.
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But what I'm saying is where you're at right now is not necessarily need to be where you're going to end up. And we all have a choice, right? We have a choice every day to choose either forge forward and go after our dream or sit in the shit and ruin our life.
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Ja, Herr. Also, in diesem Moment. Du bekommst den Anruf von... Von Ron Rivera. Ja, Ron Rivera. Dieser Mann hat einiges verpasst, Alter. Er ist ein Geist, Alter. Aber du bekommst den Anruf. Wie war es in diesem Moment, wenn du mit deiner Mutter und deinem Vater verabschiedet bist?
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Das war alles, was mir in den Kopf ging. Das ist ein erstaunlicher Moment, oder? Es war. Weil ich hatte diesen Moment am anderen Ende. Ich saß da im Jahr 1999, also das war die 1999-Saison. Also das Jahr 2000, das Jahr, in dem LSU Stanford in der College World Series gewonnen hat. Und ich hatte, du weißt, professionelle Organisationen, du weißt, taggen mich als den Nr. 1 Catching Prospekt.
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Das ist Catcher. Und mein Trainer sagt mir so, hey, du kannst überall gehen, wo du willst, in der Schule. Ich bin so, naja, wo sind die Offers? Du weißt, und dann war es so, naja, du wirst wahrscheinlich am 1. Tag im Draft gehen. I fell off the board completely. Dude, Ben, I'm not joking. This was back when AOL had, it was dial-up internet. That's how old I am. He's like, dang, you old, bro?
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And then I noticed, and this is where I noticed I was different. I called my catching coach, Matt Brown. I lost touch with Matt Brown. I don't talk to him anymore. I don't know where he's at. Hell, if he listens to this, please reach out, because I would love to talk to this guy. Because he changed everything for me. He always believed in me. He always believed in me.
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I was like,
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Ich werde etwas von dir hier machen. Glaubst du, ich könnte in der LSU spielen? Er sagt, ohne Zweifel. Ich sage, okay. Er sagt, warum fragst du? Ich war wie, naja, der Draft ist vorbei. Ich habe keinen Platz, um zu spielen. Meine Karriere ist vorbei. Er ist wie, das sollte nicht passieren, Sean. Wir haben dich irgendwo verfehlt. Du solltest eine College Scholarship signen.
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Jetzt sage ich, naja, ich schalte einige runter. Ich sage, ich habe nur bemerkt, dass beide ihrer Catchers gedraftet wurden. Ich sagte, hast du einen? Er sagte, ich habe einen. Ich habe einen da drüben, ich werde ihn anrufen. Ich habe ihn angerufen. Zwei Tage später haben sie mich angerufen. Und ich habe mich ziemlich für Bücher und einen Lollipop eingeladen.
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Weil ich keine Leistung hatte, richtig? Ja. Aber der Punkt ist, das ist, als ich bemerkte, ich werde immer die Lösung suchen. Immer. Ich werde vielleicht schmerzen. Ich werde vielleicht im Moment depressiv sein. Ich habe die drei Tage emotional verletzt. Aber ich werde mich nicht definieren lassen. Das war eine schwierige Zeit, Alter. Ja, es war. Wie alt warst du, wenn das passiert ist?
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Also, ich hatte eine Blutstärke in meinem jüngeren Jahr. Also, das war mein drittjähriges Jahr. Also, ich war so 21, Alter. Also, ich habe einen späten Oktober-Tag, richtig?
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Julia, richtig? Ja, Julia. Julia. Okay, ja. Ich höre dich, Mann. Es ist schwer, weil unsere Kinder ihre Eltern nicht wählen. Sie wählen nicht, wer wir sind und was wir tun. Es ist schwer. Wie hast du das während der Saison umgebracht? Ich würde mir vorstellen, dass es für dich emotional schwer war. Okay. Meine Tochter ist brandneu und ich bin hier.
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Für viele Leute, Bro. Und Bro, nach dem 20, nach dem 19, 1998-Saison, mein erstes Jahr in der Schule, bin ich in großartiger Form geworden. Ich wurde lecker. Ich war nicht mehr fettig. Und dann habe ich eine Blutstärke bekommen. Eine Blutstärke. Und alle Offers sind aus dem Tisch gegangen. Und dann komme ich zurück. Also, ich verliere ein ganzes Jahr. Und dann bekomme ich noch ein Jahr.
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Also, ich habe 426 gespielt. Ich habe es zerstört. Und dann kein Draft. Und dann LSU für nichts. Und dann, als ich da war, wurde ich verletzt. Ich hatte eine Surgery, also ich bin immer noch an diesem Punkt kämpft, um über Wasser zu bleiben. Und ich denke einfach, dass diese Momente sind, was uns in stressgefüllten Situationen macht, die ich jetzt durchführe.
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Ich bin nicht davon ausgegangen, warum ich da bin, aber ich bin davon ausgegangen, was ich jetzt mache.
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Ich glaube, das ist der Buy-in, Bro. Der Buy-in? Der Buy-in, das ist der Anti-Buy-in. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja.
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Das war wild, Bro.
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Das ist einfach nur der Anfang für deine Organisation. Das ist ein Teil davon.
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Ich versuche, irgendwo zu kommen, wo wir in den letzten 31 Jahren noch nicht gewesen sind. Aber du hast auch deinen kleinen Herzschlag, der außerhalb deines Körpers schläft, zu Hause zu schlafen.
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Das ist hervorragend. Aber das ist es, was dich macht, richtig? Du kannst das tun. Ich denke, das ist etwas, was jeder Athlet, jeder Entrepreneur, jeder Mutter, jeder Vater, egal, was du tun könntest, was du besser tun könntest.
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I love it, man. I love it. That's a great perspective. And no doubt you guys will be back. You'll be on top of your game next year because now you're getting to that next version of Ben, right? To where you get the opportunity to really self-evaluate and just like, okay, what was it? And when you're least expecting it, you'll find out. Das war es.
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Und dann weißt du, du attackierst diesen Moment da und diese spezielle Sache. Und dann nächstes Jahr hast du das Jahr, das du haben willst. Und nächstes Jahr das gleiche. Und dann siehst du zurück, acht Jahre später und denkst dir, verdammt. Hey, das war eine 12-Jahre-Karriere, Mann. Die Rückseite, die acht Jahre, Mann, ich war der Typ. Ich war der Typ. Das ist das Ziel.
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Das ist das, wofür wir sind. Ja, du wirst es bekommen. Du wirst es bekommen, Mann. Bevor wir aufs Flugzeug fahren, du siehst frisch aus, Bruder. Erzähl mir das, Bruder. Die Original. Das ist deine Kleidungsbranche, oder? Ja, das ist die Branche da. Ich weiß, wo du lebst, also weiß ich, wo du herkommst. Ich habe ein paar. Ja, ich liebe das, Mann. Erzähl mir das Hintergrund der Branche und alles.
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Ich sage dir, Mann, ich kann auf den Gramm gehen und auf dich und deine Frau schauen. Sie sind immer fit. Sie sehen immer gut aus. Ich bin wie, verdammt, schau dir diese Jungs an. Schau dir diese Jungs an. Ich habe eigentlich ein Shirt für dich. Es ist nicht hier. Ich bringe es dir nach Hause. Wir haben jetzt auch Merch. Ich möchte dir eines unserer Shirts anbieten. Unser Link ist heute auch live.
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Wir machen es nicht so, wie du es machst, aber es ist etwas anderes. Ich liebe deine Mission. Ich liebe, worum du bist. Und ich habe heute viel über dich gelernt, Mann. Du bist ein deep-ass-Dude. Ich respektiere das Scheiß aus ihm. Begrüße es. Gleichfalls, Mann. Danke, Bruder.
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Wir werden es machen, Mann. Das coole an dem Spiel war für mich, dass ich die Möglichkeit hatte, jemanden etwas tiefer zu kennen. Denn wir sind fünf Jahre von einander entfernt, Mann. Es ist immer ein Verlangen. Jetzt sind unsere Konversationen und unsere Freundschaften viel anders. Vielen Dank. Thank you so much. Go ahead and follow Ben.
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We're going to drop all his links here, even to his website for his clothing brand. If you feel compelled, go check it out. Buy something nice for yourself or your family. And until next time, guys, stay determined.
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You know, it's interesting because I had a conversation with my wife last night, right? And the show has gotten to a point where we're getting the opportunity to do cooler things. Like we're getting to go places. Excuse me. And that's going to, that's going to take time away from me being home. And the direct response was, is it going to be like this every month?
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Because, you know, your son has, our son has baseball. The girls have gymnastics. And I'm like, Und ich denke mir, oh mein Gott, ist das wirklich so, wie wir es jetzt machen? Wir haben vier Jahre lang diese Plattform gebaut. Jetzt explodiert sie. Wir müssen das kapitalisieren, oder es war für nichts. Aber gleichzeitig verstehe ich es, Mann. Ich verstehe es.
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Und unsere Wife sieht uns komplett anders. Deine Wife sieht dich als Fußballspieler nicht, Alter.
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Ich werde nicht da sein. Ich liebe es. Das ist wie das Thema, richtig? Jeder spricht von Balance als Entrepreneur und du bist auch ein Entrepreneur. Wir werden dazu kommen. Aber sie sprechen von Balance, richtig? Du kannst alles in deinem Leben nicht balancieren. Es ist, es ist wirklich unmöglich.
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Und ich sage immer, es geht darum, wenn du diese Zeit hast, bist du vollständig und du hast das erreicht. Wie sind einige der, und ich werde von dir lernen, gerade jetzt, weil ich eine schwierige Zeit habe, aufzuhalten. Ja, wie mein Dude, es ist schwer. Wie hast du es geschafft, zu sagen, okay. I'm going to leave my phone over here when it's time to be with the baby and the wife.
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I'm going to go on a walk and not bring my phone. How do you deal with that?
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Du hast jeden Faktor des Shows getroffen. in einer Teilnahme der Gespräche. Aber das ist die Sache, richtig? Also, selbst mit deinem Job, Fußball, deiner Beziehung, Zeit mit deinem Kind, die Läufe, alles. Es ist so, dass alles in der Leben auf die Disziplin und Zertifizierung hinweist, richtig? Wie diszipliniert bist du in diesen Momenten, in denen du den emotionalen Motivationsbereich nicht hast?
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Und, Alter, ich bin motiviert, vielleicht sage ich Leuten das, und ich weiß nicht, es kann mehr sein. Ich bin motiviert, vielleicht drei bis vier Tage im Monat. Ich will nicht ab 4 Uhr morgens auf die Gym gehen. Aber ich mache es, weil ich gesagt habe, ich würde. Ich versuche hier etwas zu bauen und es gibt Disziplinen jeden Tag.
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Und ich weiß, wenn ich all diese kleinen Dinge tue, werde ich in diese Person wachsen, die das verdient. 100 Prozent. Weißt du, das ist für mich alles.
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You're a deep-ass dude. Like, I respect the shit out of it.
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Und dann denke ich, was die Leute lernen, was ich gelernt habe, und ich bin sicher, dass du das beurteilen kannst, ist, dass Du bildest dich in jemanden, der, wenn das eine nicht funktioniert, bereit ist, das nächste zu machen. Weil das Leben wird Dinge an dich werfen. Du wirst Scheiß-Sandwiches essen. Es wird, es wird Zeiten geben, wo du denkst, was ist los?
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Aber solange wir konsistent bleiben in diesen Momenten, in denen die Leute nicht sehen, wenn wir die Arbeit machen und es ist leise. Das ist das, was die nächste Version von dir bauen wird. 1000%. So, real quick, so you grew up in Canada, Montreal, Canada. And, you know, I think, did you play hockey, too?
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How many kids from Canada make it to the league?
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How does that feel for you? Because I mean, it's great to be in the NFL. Du stellst den Beispiel für Kinder in deinem Land, was möglich ist.
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Wir werden diese Bereiche rekrutieren. Das ist interessant. Das ist lustig, aber ich verstehe es. Ich verstehe es völlig. Du hast etwas gesagt, das ich sehr interessant fand. Du hast dir gesagt, du hast dir versprochen, dass wenn du es der Liga gemacht hättest, du es zurückgeben würdest. Nun, du führst den größten amerikanischen Fußballklinik in Kanada.
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Und es wird hier in den USA sehr selten gesprochen. Kannst du den Publikum überlegen, wie du zurückgeben kannst zu den Jugendlichen und was es für dich und die Gemeinschaft bedeutet?
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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. Before I introduce today's amazing guest, and it's going to be a great one, you're going to love him, please, if you haven't already subscribed to the YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts, please click that follow button and let us know what you think.
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That's amazing.
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Exposing the Dark Side of Military Service: From Homeless to Hero with Janae Sergio
I love that shit. Yeah. That's fantastic. And you're saying, to go back real quick, though, President Biden's the one that signed that. He did. Well, there's something good.
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The one.
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Exposing the Dark Side of Military Service: From Homeless to Hero with Janae Sergio
She's a best-selling author and a philanthropist, and welcome to the show, Janae.
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Give him his one thing.
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You've got the one, dude. It's so funny. I never leave a bad comment on any type of social media, except when I see Biden's name on Twitter or X, whatever the hell it's called now. And Obama said something today or yesterday, tweeted that Joe's presidency was amazing and everything. I said, my response was, huh, what? Like, what are we talking about here?
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You know, and I'm not a, and everybody will admit, I'm not a big political guy. You know, this is the most like, you know, that realm I've talked about on my show, but I'm excited about it. Right. Because it's not like, are you a Trumper or are you a leftist? Right. Like it's not that. And I just truly feel that what we really need to do is come together as America. Right.
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I'm excited you're here. It's like, I feel like I know you already, right? Because it's like, that's the power of social media, right? You get connected through people that you already know, love and trust. And it's like, when you meet somebody else and you're brought into the circle, it's like, okay, I already know that person.
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It's not about the party, but it's about the mission of of our country. And are we doing things for our people?
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Right. Our people. Now, I'm not saying that we don't need to help out. But I'm saying like, hey, we're hurting right now. America's hurting a little bit. And I know it probably started way before that. And, you know, the match was, you know, the pilot light was already lit, but COVID exploded it.
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You know, to where, you know, there's family members that don't consider themselves family members anymore. There's friends that don't speak to each other anymore because one's a Republican and one's a Democrat. How fucking dumb is that?
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They don't. They don't. They don't hate each other. So if you look at the WWE and the WWF, completely unrelated, but it's a soap opera. Well, what do you think this is? What do you think this is? You know, a lot of it could be staged. Like, we don't know what's going on. But my favorite is always when Trump was debating with Biden, he's like, yeah, I just don't know what he said.
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And I really don't think he does either.
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Exposing the Dark Side of Military Service: From Homeless to Hero with Janae Sergio
That was a really good one. Funny story. Have you seen the new Jamie Foxx special?
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Okay, on Netflix, do it. He does the best Trump impersonation. He does a better Trump than Trump. It's incredible. It's fucking hysterical. Your work, your activism, right? What you're doing, your mission is very brave, right? And, you know, we can go, I want to go into, you know, you being one of the first people deployed after 9-11, right? But first, it's like, you're not just a single one.
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You have kids, right? You married? Daughters. Recently divorced. Okay, so, but you have a family. I do. And like, you are putting yourself at risk. for the betterment of the country. So you're out of the military. You're no longer putting your life, you know, on the line there, but you still are. That's a real soldier.
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Right. So, I mean, it's pretty cool, but you just flew in. Yes. You had a nice flight.
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Yeah. Yeah. You look happy. You don't look like it was too bad.
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It's like the opposite, right?
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Did you? You can sleep on a plane?
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What do you think fuels all this?
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That's crazy, Janae.
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Exposing the Dark Side of Military Service: From Homeless to Hero with Janae Sergio
No man wants to say that Jimmy sexually assaulted me.
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Yeah, it's a different trauma. Like we I mean, that's just like, you know, people can be traumatized from losing a grandparent or a parent. But the sexual trauma, you know, sexual assault trauma is different. Same with hazing. It's like it's all a different type of shit. All three of them suck.
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You know, very much so. Right. But the fact of the matter is, you know, and again, I don't want to I don't. probably shouldn't say this, but I would say like getting over a grandparent passing or a parent passing and, or even, you know, being hazed depending on the level of the hazing.
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I don't want to be insensitive to that, but like those two things there, I think in my mind are more conceivably like easier to work through, through therapy. But when you're sexually assaulted and you're not even that, that root problem, that root thing is not being, you know, helped through, you know, medical attention. Like that, that's how people kill themselves.
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So let's, let's go there like that.
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Thank you. Yeah. I mean, now I'm not saying like hazing in school and bullying doesn't get kids to kill people. I, I don't, you guys know what I'm saying, right? Like I'm not here to make any definitive statement, but it's just like, I'm looking at him like, If it's sexual trauma, sexual assault trauma, you can't treat it like hazing.
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Just as long as he tags you. Exactly. Like, send a collab, dude. Maybe here, send a collab, so that way she gets all the analytics.
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41 different. I saw you speaking on something maybe if right after the election. Yes. What was that?
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And all the people that want to learn her sleeping journey. And she's a mouth breather.
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Exposing the Dark Side of Military Service: From Homeless to Hero with Janae Sergio
And there was and you were catching heat about something. And I think you were rebuttaling it. I watched it. I don't remember the details. But because I mean, it was like three, four weeks ago, right?
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So he would still have a life.
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And these were all men.
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God almighty. This is funny because I said, oh, you can sleep on a plane. I can't. I have to have, my nerves ride me when I'm traveling. Now, recently, over the last couple of years, they've gotten much, much better. I had this job that I had to travel for. I had to go to Portugal. I was white knuckling it the whole way. I was like, this plane goes down, we're in the water here.
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I think most people, I mean, I think probably everybody that's asking that question doesn't know shit about the military. Exactly. Or the ranking system, right? It's just, it's just wild to me, man. So if you were to go in, right, and like one of those men, if they fought back and said no, could they be sent to the brig for that or...
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But none of it came up when they were getting screened.
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Yeah. And you're giving them the voice, right? You're fighting for them. Like you're putting a name to the trauma. You're putting a name to the story. You are fascinating. I'm so grateful you're here right now. You know, when you do these, you're like always looking forward to the conversation. But this is, I mean, I don't know if you realize, but like almost 45 minutes has just flown by. Yeah.
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It's amazing. Like this is great conversation. And I think I know my audience is really going to love this. So what can we expect from you this weekend?
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It's going to be like, there's going to be a serious rescue mission going on, right? But I just think of all the bad shit. And over the last couple of years, like now, like it used to affect me going through TSA. Like I swear my wife probably hated traveling with me because every time I say something like, oh, why don't you just be nice about it?
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Okay. Okay. See, I thought that I had, so it's funny, like not to interrupt, but like, I, I thought I read that or learn that on your page, but then I got it mixed up. Cause the same day I listened to my buddy's podcast and, and he had a woman on there that was also silent. So I'm like, so I told my team, I'm like, wait, no, no, no, maybe I got this all fucked up.
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Hopefully it comes out naturally and it did. So perfect.
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Like, I'm just like, I'm not happy about getting on this plane, but now it's like, it's cool.
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Thank you.
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Exposing the Dark Side of Military Service: From Homeless to Hero with Janae Sergio
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Hey, turn this shit around. You guys are going the wrong way. And you're like, oh, my God, is this thing hijacked? Like, what the fuck? So you're sitting there and you're looking for the air marshal.
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I just know. Yeah, the engine's blown out. We're so screwed. Why is this bird flying this high? Yeah. Crazy. You want to know something that's happened to me recently? I'm not going to say his name because I don't want to get in trouble. But but like I where was I? Oh, I was coming back from where when I met Michael and Tim in Traverse, Michigan, when we were hanging out with Eric Thomas.
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So I'm way back. I hop on a flight. All right. It was my connecting flight. No, it was my first flight. I'll get this right. I promise you I will. Sorry, guys. Hang with me. You know I'm not very smart. So I get on the plane in Traverse, and my connecting flight was Charlotte. And, like, I'm sorry. Like, every time you connect at night in Charlotte, you are fucked.
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Like, so, but I roll up to my seat and it's like right against like the front part and it's like where the bathroom is. And like, so I couldn't do this, but there was this gentleman sitting there on the end and, you know, he gets up, you know, and he's got a, you know, like a sweatshirt on, got some slick back hair, a cool little goatee. I'm like, this is a fucking badass. I like this guy.
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But he got out, was super kind. And, you know, we didn't have anybody in the middle of us and we were able to have this amazing conversation, just getting to know each other. I'm thinking...
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this motherfucker's an air marshal like straight out and I said to him I looked at him I go you take the first shift I'll take the second shift and he goes you're gonna why are you why are you quoting bridesmaids I'm like you know why I'm quoting bridesmaids he goes he goes dude I'm I get I'm he goes I'm not I go he goes no I go Okay. Sure. Sure, buddy. I know how this goes.
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So we just start having great conversation. Um, you know, he asked me what I do and I told him about all this and he's like, Whoa, this is fascinating. Can you show me your page? So I showed him my Instagram. He goes, can I follow it? I'm like, absolutely. And, and he goes, Hey, do you mind? I go, dude, I'm gonna follow you back. Don't worry.
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As I followed him back and we started like having this friendly conversation, talk about our families. I'm like, so man, what do you do? And I just, I just, he's like, well, you know, I'm in, I'm in department of defense. I'm like, no shit. You are. I'm like, of course you are. And he starts laughing. He's like, no, that's not what I do.
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But I do gun trainings for organizations and things like that. Just I'm like, so you're the Department of Defense and you do gun trainings for like corporations, but you're not an air marshal.
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He goes, correct. I'm like, cool, man. And we just had this great conversation. And before we get off the plane, he gives me his card. He's like, hey, just... Give me a call sometime, man. You got my cell number in your phone already, but here are my other numbers. If you ever have any questions, give me a call. He's like, it's a little bit more involved than what I told you.
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And I didn't even think to look at it yet. I'm like, all right, man, I'll be in touch because I was late for my next flight because we sat on the tarmac for an hour and a half. So long story short, I get back to the hotel room that was conned because Americans screwed it up. They have enough people working so we can get off the plane. I look at the car. Senior Air Marshal. I texted him.
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I'm like, you motherfucker. I knew it. He's like, oh, yeah, you're a regular FBI agent. To this day, me and this gentleman speak every day via text. Absolutely adore him and his family. And yeah, so.
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And so I said like, hey, dude, did you know that I knew? He's like, yeah, I knew that you knew. He's like, but I can't tell you. Like, I can't tell you.
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Right. And I said, how many, like, how many times have I been on a flight with an air marshal? And he goes, probably won't, probably never. Because it's very rare that you're actually on a flight.
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Right? The percentages, right? All the flights in the world and all the people taking them, you know? But he texts me, picture everywhere he goes. Everywhere he goes, like, oh, I'm in Germany. And the next day he's in Maui. I'm like, what the heck's going on? But that's not what the show's about, right? Still sounds like- Shout out to my guy. It's pretty cool.
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Well, listen, when I make it big, he's gonna be my security. There you go. I already told him that. He's like, I'm hiring you. I'm hiring you. He's like, you can't do that thing. Oh, well, you know, I don't need bodyguard yet. You might. I know you do. Every once in a while. We'll get to that.
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Oh, shit. I don't know. Oh, yeah.
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Exposing the Dark Side of Military Service: From Homeless to Hero with Janae Sergio
You might be on the hit list here.
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Yeah. Yeah. Maybe like a disguise or something.
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Yeah, I know.
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Exposing the Dark Side of Military Service: From Homeless to Hero with Janae Sergio
Yeah, exactly. shit. Remind me not to stand next to you at all tomorrow. So listen, okay.
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So we're already on it, right? Let's hit it. So you talk about the work you do. What's the audience, the type of work that you're talking about that is leading to this conversation?
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I mean, she's not a toddler.
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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. And if this is the first time you are listening to the show, please hit subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts. Follow the journey along.
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Wow. Yeah. I mean, like, honestly, like. That's just sad. It's really, it's really sad. And like, you know, as a civilian, I've never been, you know, a service member, but you know, when, as a civilian, you look at the United States military and you look at the overall mission is to serve and protect.
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Right. And it's just unfortunate. I'm like thinking like this whole time, I'm like, you know, I've got two beautiful daughters. I got a son also, right? 11 year old son, eight year old daughter, six year old daughter. And it's like, wow. So you mean to tell me that the service may not even be a safe place for them.
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Start at episode number one and just listen to the growth because we've made some crazy, crazy leaps and bounds, quantum leaps in the show over the last four years. So super happy. Today, I have an amazing guest to share with you. Her name is Janae Sergio. She's a bestselling author, former service woman, doing amazing things in the community to bring a lot of light to certain subjects.
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That's wild shit, man. That's wild. It's scary.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Kanye, the Super Bowl thing was an absolute shit show. What the fuck's this guy's deal? Wife wears a naked dress and then there's talks of a separation now?
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Dude, so what do you think is going on, right? Because we have reports stating that they are not moving forward. There are rumors. We're staying together. We're looking to work it out. Yes, what does that look like, though? I mean, you're a family law attorney. You've seen this many times play out, right? Where does this go from here? Where do you think it goes? Yeah.
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I'm super excited. We had a good conversation over the weekend before we recorded. We had a fun kind of off-the-air conversation prior. So the juices are flowing here. We've got the creative juices going right now.
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Great points, right? We don't know. Like we, we don't live there. It's not for us to judge. We can only assume and kind of put the storyline together and it's, you know, it's entertainment, right? As well. But how, here's my thought. What if it was just a fucking stunt?
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
What if it was staged?
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I'll never understand it.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Wouldn't it bring more light to it? Like, here he goes again.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I need a good one, but neither was a Superbowl link.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Let's do this. Well, first, let's talk to the tell the audience a little bit that may not know who you are. Give them a little rundown of your background, you know, where you're from, what you're doing and all that kind of good stuff.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Yeah. You know, one t-shirt.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Like, yeah, let's, let's get real. That's, you know, also to shame on, I'm sorry. Shame on the TV, right? Shame on the Superbowl. Like, how do you not proofread or look at what that link's going to pull up when you, when you put it on the TV?
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I wonder how many streams. Kanye West on Spotify or Apple Music or any Pandora, any type of platform has taken place since the Super Bowl and since this has gone out.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Yeah.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I mean, I don't know. Okay. So let's, let's spill the tea here. So two months before that trial, the Diddy trial. Yeah.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Shit, man, that's my late grandma's birthday. Can they come up with a different date? Shit.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I'm very interested in this, obviously, because it's... I mean, you see the... You hear people talking, you know, and there was people on social media for years warning everybody about this, right? How this was all going to all come out. And then, you know, then it did. And then there's all of a sudden these videos of Diddy literally beating the shit out of his girlfriend. Was it Ciara? Ciara?
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Yeah. On film. On film. And it's just like... damn and there's documentaries out already everything came so quickly with this with with p diddy um and and just everything like all the platforms like hulu and max like they have all these different the the fall of p diddy like it's it's a lot to take in yeah
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
No, I agree. I mean... Listen, you and I were talking before we hit record, going back all the way to the OJ trial. You were in law school. I was younger, too. I remember it. I remember the day. I was going to a baseball game that I was playing at, and these reports came out that OJ allegedly killed his ex-wife and her friend. And I'm like, there's no way. This is wild.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I remember I was going to Brentwood, California to play a summer baseball game. And this, this thing exploded and you couldn't help but be in front of the TV and watching it like to see a popular, a public figure like that. Be reduced to the most simplest. You are just a normal human being.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
You've never got a Bronco, did you?
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
See, look at that. I love that. I love that for you. You got rid of it?
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
It was too big for me. It was too big for me. So I know how someone like myself would view these trials, the P. Diddy thing. I mean, for me, I'm just going to be honest. Entertainment.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Yeah, but then also like, yo, dude, if this is all true, I hope you fucking pay for it. Like I, I, you know, I don't want this, you know, if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit type bullshit. I mean, we talked about that too, you know, like, no, if you did all this, man, and you're guilty, you need to pay for it, man.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Cause there's all these people's lives that have been impacted over the years that don't have regular relationships with men that don't have regular relationships with people or even careers because they've been impacted by this trauma, right? And in all the while, how much of empowerment does that take away from a woman to deal with that? Or the men. I mean, there are more victims.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I mean, how about the video servicing of Justin Bieber in the club? Like the insinuation of what he allegedly was made to do in a club.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
As a child.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
It's like, okay, so then it begs the question of like, okay, so this guy really does have this much pull in that industry that he can say yes or no on an individual as an artist to whether they are going to blow up and have a great career or not.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
You're selling a different product to a different subset, which is the jury, right? Yeah.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Okay. Here's the thing, though. Here's the thing. The reality is all those things are obviously true, right? Upholding the Constitution, that's your fiduciary responsibility. But you guys are also human, right? And so it's like when I look at this, I admire you guys. I admire attorneys, even in family law.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
There's going to come a day where a family law attorney is representing a male or female that they know is in the wrong and they have to give them their best day in court. And it could conflict with their moral or core beliefs, right? Like, yeah, this person potentially could be bad.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
So I just admire you guys for being able to, I guess, filter that information and be like, okay, you know, the defense attorney for OJ, right? The defense attorney for P. Diddy, right? And all those kinds of things, like to be able to flush that and do the job right
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
And trying to prove, right, or not prove innocence, but, you know, bring down the, you know, guilty by any stretch of the imagination, right, beyond a reasonable doubt. Like, to me, that is, that's intense.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
There's so much to unpack there. And the thing that I can say what I enjoyed mostly was just hearing the real time, not the real time, but the real life. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Thank you. Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Thank you. Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
There you go. Some good influences in your life. I'm actually going to be I'm going to be in Houston the end of this month.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I would love that. I would love that. It's for a wedding, though. So I can't bolt, you know, got to be there.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Or a steak and a drink, done.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Absolutely. We could talk about that for sure. For sure. But no, family law is crazy. There's a lot of different things that can go on in family law, right? And I think the big thing that always ties in if there's kids involved, property, assets. But dude, there's some interesting things going on right now in the news media.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I agree.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
No, we haven't. And that's why America spoke what they spoke, right? And it's really sad. And it's almost victim mentality to hear, like, we're just not ready for a woman president. That's not true.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
It's not true at all. I think America is ready and willing and wanting that. Wanting that. But I also think...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
They'd have a dope ass house for a little while, though.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
That shit would be wild. I don't even think that doesn't even sound appealing to me whatsoever.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Well, I mean, I'm from Cali.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
You keep the death threats. You keep all the bullshit. You know, I'm going to live a normal life.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
The impact on the family is just so tremendous. You know, it's just too much, but we'll look here. This was amazing. We talked some good stuff, man. We talked some really good stuff.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
We didn't. We did. You will have to have you back, but I want it to be in person.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Or when I come to Texas, we'll figure something out.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
We'll figure something out. Hey, you know what we'll do? You know what we'll do? You know what we'll do? What? We'll get Valerie on it.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
We're in Naples, but Miami is like down the road. So if you're in Miami, we'll get it worked out. That's easy.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I would love that. That'd be fun. That'd be a lot of fun. We'll do it again for sure. We'll do it again in person for certain, but, but no, thank you so much. You know, I had a, we've never talked about the certain topics. So my audience is like, what's going on? Cause I, you know, I'm, I'm broadening my topics and in, in my range here, what we're talking about on the show is,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
No. That could be bad. That could be bad. Un's bad.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
And, you know, these types of things is what's in the news cycle. People are talking about it and wanting to know about it. So thank you for for stretching me today, because like for real, that's it was different than anything we've ever done. And it was fun.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
So where can my audience check you out? You do speaking engagements. Do you have your you have two books like talk? I mean, let's let's direct everybody.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Okay. Awesome. So, Kanye. I mean, there's been a lot of stuff going on with him, right? The Super Bowl thing was an absolute shit show.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I love it. Michelle, thank you so much. I look forward to continuing the relationship and the new friendship, and it won't be the last that we have conversations. I can tell you that. I dig it. You're amazing, and there's a lot we could do together.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Now, for the audience that had just listened or watched this show, I want you to share the episode with somebody that you know, love, and trust that needs to hear this or that is interested in some of the topics that we spoke about.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Or if you're in Texas, and shamelessly, if you're going through something that you need some family law advice, do not hesitate to look her up and schedule a consultation. So with that being said, guys, thank you so, so much for tuning in. Once again, your viewership and your loyalty is always appreciated. Until next time, stay determined.
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Sarah French, what up?
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
What the fuck's this guy's deal?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I feel like that's happened like five times. I feel like that's happened to him five times.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
It's constant. It was Taylor Swift, right? I mean, that was a long time ago. Now we have this. So the most recent one is what? Wife wears a naked dress and then there's talks of a separation now?
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Who told you about the washboard abs?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
I don't think so. I know what you're talking about.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
What it sounds like from what you're saying, you know, obviously the quote of, I have complete dominion over my wife, that's an abusive statement, right? Yeah. That means you feel you own her, right? Is that what that really means? Right. And then also the whispering in the ear, do this now. Do this now. Right. It's kind of how I'm interpreting it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
And to me, it's just like, what do you think is really going on when you say silencing her? Like, I don't understand this. Right. There's another topic we'll get to in a little bit that that has been, you know, talk widely talked about by silencing. Right. It's like, I guess I just don't understand that world. Right. It's like, what does that actually mean and how can it actually happen?
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Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. I have an amazing guest today, but first, please hit the button to follow the show on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. I have an amazing Texas attorney today, one of the top attorneys in the state of Texas. She's amazing. She's dynamic.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
Now, so when you were talking about Kim Kardashian, were you hinting around the fact that there was moments where Kim was also controlled or potentially controlled by Kanye West?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
So there's a massive difference between Bianca and Kim Kardashian, right? To your point, right? You know, just from like a family standpoint, Kim's unit, everybody's together. I'm not saying Bianca's is not. I don't know about her family. I don't know.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
kim kim has fuck you money like you can't control her right the family has fuck you money correct like you're not gonna you're not gonna get the same result she's gonna be like yeah okay dude try it like yeah go ahead i think more people like me than they like you dude right yeah um but for this girl it's concerning right because well she may not have that financial stability like a kardashian has i
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Kanye, Control, & Celebrity Abuse: A Lawyer’s Unfiltered Take
She has a hell of a resume, and we're so blessed to have her today. Michelle O'Neill, welcome to the show.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Audience, I want you to tune into this, like literally lock the fuck in right here. From nine years old, you were incarcerated and you were incarcerated for the next seven years.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
You know, it's funny you mentioned that because, you know, you and I have been talking a lot and, you know, John's name has come up. We talk about turning adversity into opportunity. And I feel like most successful people will take the darkest days in their life, right? There's some things right now that I opened up to you before the show that's going on in my personal life that is not
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
not optimal man you know it's not the best situation but it's like out of that adversity is going to come opportunity i didn't know where it was coming from you and i spoke and like oh we could do something together here right like holy shit like in in in what i want the audience to really understand about what i'm saying and you know borderline tangent is Stop judging what you're going through.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Like, you know, and I'm looking at the camera because I want the audience to understand, like, so many people judge the adversity that they're going through. Absolutely. Why me? Why am I going through this? I'm a good person. Why is this happening? It's just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But what I've learned this time around is I'm just... in baseball terms, we say, wear it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Just like you'd wear a pitch. Yep. Let that ball hit you and let it burn, man. Yeah. And it's like, because it's building me. That's right. It's like, it's building me. It's like, wait a second, dude, this is serving me in such a positive way. I don't know what it is yet. I'm surely not going to judge the obstacle, but I'm surely not going to judge the opportunity either. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
So I think what I want the audience to get out of it is like, whatever you're going through, Just submit to it. Lean into it. Like, literally, you know, lean into it. Like, it's your first kiss or your, you know, you may now kiss your bride or, you know, whatever. And you lean into it. Lean into that struggle.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Because on the other side of that struggle is the person who you have become because of all that struggle.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
So my guest today, his name is Brad Miller, and he is the owner and founder of Southern Tier Telecommunications, and he's just an amazing guy, and he's done some amazing things in his career and built an amazing freaking business that would blow your mind, but it didn't come without hardship, and we're gonna get into the story of who Brad is today.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Sorry, this is everything to me right now. Right, because I've had multiple conversations lately. Like a buddy of mine said that he would go to bed at night wishing he would wake up and look like this certain wrestler. It was on a show. And I said, wow, that's powerful because if that would have happened, then you would have robbed yourself of who you were gonna become in that journey.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Most people are so interested, like you said, the instant gratification, and that comes with social media. Make a million dollars in 90 days. First of all, guys, if you ever believe any of that shit, you deserve to get swindled. Sorry. And you will. You will, because you cannot make a million dollars in 90 days. You cannot. I don't care what they say, okay? You can one exit, 10 exit, 39 exit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
I don't give a shit. You're not making a million dollars in 90 days. Anyway, I'm moving on now. Said my piece on my sub lock, but, but like, but right. So what, what we want is we want to fast forward all that. Right. Yes. And we're forgetting that, you know, from this point of contention or, or fear based or a big losing streak, we want to skip all the way here to win the fucking world series.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
So without further ado, my man, welcome to the show.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
You got, well, Hey, um, these are macro results here. Yeah. Okay. The big losses are from past decisions that either you or I have made, right? And there's many of them that created this loss. And then the big win is a series of decisions that people don't see every day. And that creates the win. Now, all the micro stuff in between, that's the joy, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Because that's where you experience the pain. That's where you experience the tears. That's where you experience the camaraderie between friendships, right?
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
This is like, this is, I got goosebumps right now. Like I just, I just absolutely adore and love you and the family. And you know, we, we had, thank you. We had such an amazing time for Marina's birthday. We have many, many good moments. Oh, we have, we've done, we've met each other and we we've had Halloween where I danced on your lap in the golf cart.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
That's when you start understanding what actually works for you, where you dive into yourself, you dive into your business, you dive into your body, you dive into your mind, you dive into your spouse, your children, and your spirituality, and then you crush it because you became an absolute bulletproof monster here in the micro movements. Yes. Who wants to do that? No one.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Jackie tells me all the time, listen, dude, you're a dreamer. I get it. I love it. But you get excited about things and you don't think about the downfalls in between, right? You just jump in and go. That's right. And it pisses me off. But it's true. It's true. That's why it pisses me off. It's called grounding you. Exactly. Sometimes I don't want to be grounded. None of us do.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
I wish that moment would come out. And then we've done Friendsgiving.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Right. But she's right. But then she follows up with it. But that's what also makes you really great. That's correct. But sometimes you need me to say, Hey bro, which is incredibly important.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Right. And then we recently did, I missed New Year's. Thank God I did because I heard you. That was a good place to miss. I'm glad we did. And then Marina's 36th birthday. That's right. That was so much fun at Ember. Yeah.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Well, that's what the brand is.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
They think it's the product. The brand is who the freak you are. Yeah. Like what? I mean, yeah, we're on the same page.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Okay.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Yeah, too bad we had to go home because we had a sitter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fun continued, but... I'm sure it did. I'm sure it did. I'm really kind of jealous and also kind of scared to ask.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
I want you to finish the story, but it's important because I want the audience to understand the type of woman she is because I've experienced it because I know her. Yes. But to have a 23-year-old girl, a young woman at that time, have that type of clarity about what she wants. And really, that was not about her. That was about what she saw in you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
And if you do not execute it, you are not showing me who you are, who I know you are.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Oh, we've done backyard social together. That was a fun night. That was the first night we met.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
No, no, no, no. I think it was backyard social. No, we went to Max. We went to sushi. Really? Yes. How much sake did you have? Yeah. They put the six of us in the corner, remember? Oh, yeah.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
But no, man. So we've had some good times and many, many more. But dude, like... Super happy to have you on the show because the one thing that I realized at Thanksgiving, right? I knew you were a friend. I knew you had, you know, you've created this amazing business, but I didn't really understand your story because I didn't know about it. Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
And you started speaking on it a little bit and I'm like, dude, we got to have you on the show. So give the audience a small peek behind who Brad Miller is and what you have gone through, and then we can expand on it throughout the show.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Thank you.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
And that was like right in the height of COVID, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Right.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
It's amazing. I just think as we land the plane today for the audience to think and to really go back and think about and reflect upon the whole episode here, the conversation with my friend Brad, who at nine years old was incarcerated. for seven years, gets out when he was 16, and his own mother, who gave birth to him, stood up and said, that is not my child, and walked right out.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Has built something to where now he has a legacy. You're helping people. You are a good friend. You're an amazing husband, father, and a great friend. Obviously, I think I already said that, but you've built an empire and you're teaching others how to do it. So, you know, for those people that are struggling, there is a way out.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
And I want them to understand that it may not be telecom for them because they may not understand how to get ahold of you, right? They may not understand how to learn this business, but just because you had the most humbling beginnings, that is not a death sentence. It's not your life sentence, right? Like no matter what happened,
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Like you have the opportunity and the choice to move forward every single day and to make something great out of the rest of your existence.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
I think too, man, the one thing that I want to happen is my wish is The first wish was, when I created the show, was to wake up in a society that was determined to go chase their dreams no matter what their emotions were telling them on that day. It's still that. But it's also, I want people to understand that we live in a world of co-creation and not competition. Yes.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
But can you imagine how many amazing things can happen if two badass entities would be like, dude, you're good and we're good. Let's start beating up on each other and differentiating. Let's see how we can impact the whole world together and co-create.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Have you ever read The Go-Giver? No. No. You need to read it. Interesting book. I'm almost done with it. I'm going to give it to you because the guy in there, I'm not going to ruin it. I'm not going to ruin it. All right. There's someone listening right now based on what you said, understands where I'm going with it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
I will finish it this weekend, hopefully, and I will give it to you so you can read it. And you will, my buddy, David Waldy sent it to me. Such a good guy. Randomly just send it to me.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
And I think you're really going to connect with it based on what you just said. That'll be awesome. It'll be really good. It's going to help you understand you even more than you already do. Um, but, uh, let's tell the audience where, where can they find you, man?
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Like it, can they get in touch with you on, I know you're not a big social media guy, but a lot of people that listen to the show are on social media and may want to say, Hey, heard the show, man. Like can you, can you help me?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
I feel a certain way about it, but I want to hear what you have to say.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
It's amazing, dude.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
It's pretty interesting. It's very interesting. Well, look, dude, I appreciate you. Thank you for coming on. Yeah, thanks for having me. You gave the audience a ton of value. And you heard him. The website will be in the show notes. So please make sure you go check him out if you have any questions. And if you're interested in a career in telecom, he's your guy.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
But again, I just want to thank you guys for listening and watching once more. Staying consistent with us as we've grown this amazing show with amazing guests and an incredible production. Couldn't do it without you. So please keep sharing the show with your friends, people that you know, love and trust.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
And don't be scared to send an email or something or a message to talk about what guests you want to hear, what topics you'd like to hear if I haven't covered anything. And please go ahead and leave some reviews, written reviews on Spotify and Apple. Helps us keep doing what we're doing. Appreciate you guys. Until next time, stay determined.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Like my daughter, Alina's eight, you know, Alina.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
You were, hold on, hold on. And audience, I want you to tune into this. Like, if you were driving and you got all the things going on in your mind, literally lock the fuck in right here. So you, from nine years old, you were incarcerated and you were incarcerated for the next seven years.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
It's like almost like the same situation you were in that got you. I don't want to say cause you to do those things. Right. Cause you made the choice as a, as a youth. That's right. And your frontal cortex isn't fully developed out of that. Right. Obviously that goes without saying, but here you are at 16 reintroduced to society and
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
And literally in the same type of environment with people that didn't know how to make it on their own.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
What were you carrying a razor blade in your mouth for? What would that do?
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. And before I introduce today's guest, please do me a favor. If you haven't already, please go subscribe to Determined Society, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and the YouTube. Come check us out everywhere at the Sean French on Instagram and at the Determined Society on Instagram as well.
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Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
now if something like that would come up, you'd be like, yeah, no, like that's a hard stop. So how does that line blur, you know, when you're, when you had second kid, you know, and now you're starting to get back on the right track.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
I mean, you're still, you know, you're, you're, you're running the drugs, but that line, like when you go in to do that armed robbery, are you saying that the logic of what might could happen doesn't even come into your mind? At the moment it didn't.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Making $50 Million in 1 Year: Brad Miller's Transformation From Rock Bottom to Financial Freedom
Today, I have a special treat for me and for you. It's not very often I get to interview somebody that I know, love, and respect on a personal level. But when I do, it's everything to me because I see the embodiment of what the individuals talk about on my show in real life. see the family, see the children, have dinners, friends givings, all that kind of stuff.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
There's a lot of sugar in that.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
So I have with me my man Alvin Lavitan in California. Welcome to the show, boys. Thanks, buddy. I appreciate it. I appreciate you having us. It's always great. It's a pleasure. It's a pleasure. You guys got quite the gig here, man. You got four locations, right? Veteran owned. Correct. Just a beautiful. So, like, what was the vision, man? That's you, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
It's crazy. I stopped liking to drink a while ago. I just don't like it anymore.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
That's some good stuff. That's really cool, man. It's really cool. I mean, hey, it's a healthy habit, right? They're going to feel better. They wake up in the morning. They're probably doing better at work. And you know what? If they're married and with kids, they're probably having better interactions with the wife and they're probably a little more patient with the kids, right? Hands out.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
You know? Absolutely. So I agree. So, I mean, I just think that, you know, when we when you look at it, everybody wants to, you know, they have the idea of wanting to get in better shape, wanting to do something. That's what the show is about. It's about determination and discipline. Right. But but there's a disconnect with people, man. What do you think? What do you think it lies?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
You know, with the disconnect to continue on the path. Let's say you have someone come in, you know, starting the gym, and you can just see them quit on themselves after about a month. What do you think that's going on in their mind?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Oh, I do remember that. That's good stuff, dude.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Right. You know, it's crazy. So this, this is one of the things that used to be with me. Like I would, I would play with it a little bit. Right. Yeah. Like I'm committed and I'd bring my clothes when I'd go on a road trip to go to the gym. Cause you know, all hotels have gyms and I would never go. And it's so funny.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Last night was the first night I stayed here, and my ass was up at 4 a.m., and I was in the hotel gym by 4.30. There you go. And, dude, I was so proud of myself. As you should be. Because I've never done it. Yeah. You know, like, yeah, I'm locked in, but am I really locked in? Can I do it here? And so it was a non-negotiable for me to get in the gym.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
most of the time. I've been passing out hard, man. I've been passing out real hard around 9. My wife's like, are you going to fall asleep early again? I go, Dude, my body's just tired. I'm going to bed tired.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Oh, it's a serious group.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
There's still 80, 90 people here on Friday night at 930. Yeah, come on. That's insane. The thing, dude, that I found is you can shift, right? You can go, okay, I can either be happy and go do what I need to do or I can be miserable the rest of the day and have this burden on my shoulder. Correct.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
But the one thing I found, but I think it's so dangerous and I want the audience to really think about this, is the moment you tell yourself the night before I'm going to get up at, six, seven, I don't care what time it is, to go do a certain activity. And you don't go do it. You are setting your day up for failure. Correct. Because now you've already taken the easy road.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
And the moment you take the easy road and choose easy over the hard... Like your discipline goes out the window. Now, the next time you have to make a decision through that day about, am I going to do the right thing or am I going to do what's easy? Guess what you choose.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
It happens. I've been through it. Hey, I've been there, right? That's what got me in trouble.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
My wife would destroy me.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
You know what's crazy? A lot of times, too, with what I'm doing, I'm trying to show people. you know, hey, you can make these changes. Like if I can do it, you can do it. And I'm really looking to inspire.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
So every morning I've been doing these things on my story, like around 4.30 or, you know, like right before I go into the gym, I'll write this message on whatever download comes to my mind, you know, about comparison or, you know, whatever it is, discipline. It doesn't matter, right? I'm giving value first thing in the morning. And then I'll put a timestamp on it
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
And then I'll put blood type determined every day. People like, I love these. These are freaking incredible. Like, thank you for these. Like, oh my God, I was just dealing with this last week and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. Thank you for putting this. I know I'm not alone. So you know what? I have to wake up and go. Yeah. Because I was watching you. Yeah. Because if I don't. All right. He stopped.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
And the bottom line is, there might be something on the calendar, like you said, like maybe I'm traveling. But if I'm traveling, I'm still doing the story.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
What's that?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
I need that accountability. Yeah, 100%. And then, hey, keep doing these. Keep doing these. So that's me every single day. That's my self-accountability, but I'm also doing it to help people because I know everybody else is thinking the same thing.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Yeah. A lot of times people tell me, like, oh, my God, I needed to hear that. I'm like, I needed to write it because I needed it. Yeah, absolutely. Right? That's, like, the best type of coaching when you're, like, just sharing your journey with the public and your friends.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
It helps you heal, but at the same time, it gives value to them, and then it sets off a whole, you know, chain reaction of them going out and taking action. Yeah.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
You're 34. And you're? I'm 45. So I'm 46. Yeah. So we're in the same age. Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Comparison is the thief of joy.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
But you know what you can also think of, too? Huh? You don't speak up. What was that? If you don't speak up. If I don't speak up? And tell your story. Yeah. You're selfish. You know why? Because someone needs to hear that shit.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
We were just winging it. Yeah, but see, the point is, though, right? It's, like, your story, and I know this is extreme, but your story could save someone's life. Possibly.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
I'm broke. What's the point of being here?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
See? See? But no, I think, you know, at the beginning of everything, it was me and Kyle were talking about it. You know, you asked me if I knew this whole imposter syndrome thing. Yeah. That's just until you get proficient at something, right? That's normal, right? But it's also when you compare yourself to other people thinking like, what have I actually done, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
But then you're looking at a snapshot of someone's life. You have to go off your experience, right? Everything that you've accomplished, right? Dead broke at 27. Successful real estate team that you lead. You're married. You have a daughter. You own two gyms. Or you might be partnering with the other two. I don't know. But, dude, you've done some stuff. And people need that light.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
That's wild, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
People need to see that. And so this is like a therapy session on calendar.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
We're all over this guy. Hey, come on. But that's going to be my challenge to you after here, man. It's like, dude, just find your voice and do it little by little. Start with maybe typing something on your stories. Maybe then do a video, but just understand that you've got to be willing to really suck at it.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
You know, because I was terrible. Yeah. You know, terrible. Reps. You get your reps in. You get better. You get stronger. You get faster. Whatever it is. Just like squats, right? You don't have the greatest technique when you squat at first, but you learn. Yeah. You know?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
If you ever... Can you get back up, too? Oh, yeah. That's amazing. It's like ass to grass. That's easy. Ass to grass is an Asian thing, huh? Unbelievable. I'm surprised y'all have never seen that. No, I mean, no. It's... Okay. I'm trying to do a squat right now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
So what do you do down there? You just hang out? No, it's just a squad. That's what I'm saying. Messing around. I love it, dude. I love it. That's fantastic. No, but, you know, what's next for you guys, man?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Yeah, dude. I just think that it's so important, like, when you have your purpose and you know what it is, and you enjoy doing something, like, this isn't work to you guys.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
You know what I mean? Sometimes, you know, any business of course. There's stressors behind it. Like, this is fun for me, but there's times where I'm like, dude, this is stressful as shit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Wait, so, hold on. You own apartment complexes too?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
I mean, it's like you cannot have all this foot traffic and things not break, right? And that's the part of the blessing and the curse, right? You have this many people coming in. Like I walked in, I honestly didn't know what to expect on a Friday night. You know, I walk in, I'm like... Holy shit, dude. This place is jammed up. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, it's great. Right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
But so, yeah, things are going to break. But that's just a testament of what you guys built.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
We understand it. Absolutely. So let me ask you this. This show is called The Determined Society. So I want each one of you to answer this. What does determination mean to you and what does it look like?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Yeah, that's the Bobby Henline Foundation charity workout, man. They're out there getting it. Yeah, for sure. They're getting it. For sure. It's been crazy. The assault bike.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
terrible brutal oh you guys kept he's a sleeper this guy's a monster he's a stud i mean the dude's strong he's fit yeah he goes i don't do cardio and he does what was your time i think it was 113 113 50 calories in a minute 13 seconds yeah you're about a minute 30 right no i did uh 216 216 i can't generate the forces but the record yeah what was the record
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
That's wild. You had an interesting, you know, analogy before you kicked the workout off. You want to share with the audience.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Dude, that's wild.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
What's even crazier is that one bite of a Snickers is 50 calories.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
yeah right makes sense that's crazy right it's insane so so you guys got the four gyms here what have you guys learned most about your journey and i guess pushing through the fear of opening that because there's you know when you expand right and you add more more gyms there's always a level of like oh shoot what are we doing man you know like absolutely yeah so how do you guys work through that together
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Yeah, it just exploded. I think we were talking earlier, I think it was you, Alvin, you were talking about how many check-ins a day you guys have here.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
And you guys have 3,000 members here.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
At this location. So you're talking more than half the members. Yeah. I mean, they're running through here. Yeah. Right? That's pretty badass.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Yeah. I mean, I do like to walk in here. You know, we're outsiders. You know, we're from Florida. We come in here. Well, and everybody's been super kind, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Huh?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Not in our area. No? No. Nothing like this, man. This is different. This is just a hardcore trainer's gym. You want to come here. If you want to get in shape and you want people around you that are doing it that can help you, this is the place to be, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
It's so funny because I always say about motivation, I'm motivated like three or four times a month. Yeah. Because really, I truly feel like discipline and determination will bring you where you want to be, right? Motivation is going to give you that kick in the ass that you need. I agree. But it goes away. It's fleeting. It's like tomorrow, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
When we get up here and we light up the stage down there, there'll be so many people that are going to walk out of here motivated as shit. I'm going to go chase my dreams. I'm going to go do this. And they get home and their kid shits themselves. They got the flu. And now they're cooked. They're done. It's done.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
But when we set our systems up like you guys have to build these gyms out, you got the template now. You know what works, right? So when you do that and you execute things daily, right? And for me, filming the show, we have a cadence, right? We all have our certain jobs in here. My job is to show up and do this. and I stay in my freaking lane, right?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
And then from that point, I'm not always, I'm excited to film because it's just what I love to do, but there's certain things within the business I don't like to do, I'm not motivated to do. What the discipline says, hey, I have to, I get to do this. This is what's going to build my business, right? So how have you guys worked through that?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
What's up, everybody? We're back with another episode of The Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean French. We are live at Iron Asylum Gym in Norfolk, Virginia. Today, I have two special guests with me. But before I introduce the guests, if this is the first time watching, I want you to go subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts and share.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Because the audience that's listening and watching this right now, someone is struggling with the discipline or just saying like, hey, I'm not motivated to do this. So I'm going to, you know what? I'm going to chill today.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Yeah. So yesterday was quit day. Yesterday was quit day? Is that like literally a day? Literally a day. 15 days or something? 15 days or some shit like that. So it might have been not yesterday.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Who's going to go back and do that, right? It's all about, like you were saying, habit stacking. Here's something crazy. It's something that I've been going through. So on December 3rd, I was 225 pounds. Do what? 225 pounds on December 3rd. Okay. And I said to myself, like, man, you're fat. Like, I didn't like myself on camera. I hated it.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
I hated everything that came out because I was just so puffy. And I'm like, this is not, there's no longevity in this, right? I'm unhealthy. So I went to a good friend of mine. I said, hey, man, fix me. And we went through all my nutrition, put me on a great protocol. I'm down to 200, man. And I'm thriving. I feel amazing.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
They just need someone. Yeah, and it's in person, too.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Dude, I mean, dude, I love water. I do that when I'm fat, too. I love the taste of water. Water's the best thing, yeah. It's the best ever. No, it is. But my point is, is, like, I had the habit stack, right? And I went to somebody, like my friend Jeff Delaney, that went through my whole nutrition. He does have a weight loss clinic in Naples called NuViva. And we went through everything, man.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
This episode was something that you know, love, and trust that needs to hear this. So today I have with me the owners of this beautiful gym that is 25,000 square foot lifters gym. This is a beautiful place, man. People down here right now at 9 p.m. on a Friday night getting their lift in. So this is a whole other meaning to Friday night at the bar, right?
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
Consult, DEXA scan, everything. I've done two DEXAs already. In four weeks, I lost 13.77 pounds of fat. in four weeks, just by training hard, right? Six days a week. And, you know, three days of weight training, three days are hit training and I'm dialed in on my nutrition and I'm getting the results. But like, I'm not sitting there thinking like I have to go so hard in the gym.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
I'm like, man, I'm going to, I'm going to start slow. I'm going to, I'm going to go to all these workouts because I committed to it and I reached out for support. But the main thing I'm going to do is I'm going to listen to my body.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
And it's so funny because now the aches and pains that I had, I was talking to my buddy Mike before we shot the show here, like, my spine is more mobile now. It doesn't hurt. My hip flexors don't burn anymore. There you go. Right? My knees don't hurt anymore. Man, 25 pounds? It's a big difference.
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
I feel like I look like a different person. You're carrying around a couple of bricks. Yeah, I look like a different person. Like I saw pictures from the event earlier today, and the sales trainer, I'm like, holy shit, I like me now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
What I found really interesting, and you guys will be able to speak on this, and I want the audience to really...
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
hear what you have to say because you know they talk about you know it's going to take months to see the physical change i don't believe i don't believe that right because i i saw it in a week i lost 10 pounds in one week just by eating the right foods and exercising right and then by week two i was down 15 you know and then just by then it's just like incrementally gotten better but the crazy thing is is like people say it's 80 nutrition
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How Iron Asylum Gym Inspires Determination and Discipline in Every Member
no it's not it depends right case by case i'd say i don't for me it's like for me it's like 99.9 percent right my body is like dude yes i agree no it's nutrition's huge it's massive it's huge yeah so we say case by case right so i mean obviously some one person could eat more of one thing than another person can but correct um but what are your thoughts on nutrition how important it is
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Die negativen Konsequenzen steigen zusammen und du sagst, okay, das ist es, worüber er spricht. Genau. Das sind die Verluste, über die wir sprechen, diese Verletzungen, richtig? Es ist so, du musst sie haben, weil das ist, was den Spieler macht. Das ist, was den Profi macht.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Es ist interessant, weil wenn wir uns jetzt die Rookies anschauen, und ich habe eine Frage, es ist eine brennende Frage, weil es einige Berichte gibt, die rausgekommen sind. Ich habe einige Posts gesehen, wie Travis Hunter beantwortet hat, dass er beide Wege spielen möchte, oder dass er Fußball nicht spielt. Was hat Social Media und NIL getan?
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Und nicht nur Travis Hunter, sondern generell, aber spezifisch, aber generell, weil ich fühle, dass Back in your heyday, you're like, hey, I'm going to play football, I'm excited.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Du hast den Merch, du hast alles andere. Genau. Ich stimme dazu. Ich denke, wenn die NIL kam, waren wir alle aufgeregt. Aber warte, was wird da passieren? Und jetzt sehen wir, in meiner Meinung nach, das Schlechte. Und was du sagst, ist, hey, wir müssen das ein bisschen wiederverändern. Es muss modifiziert werden.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Das ist ein guter Tipp für die College Athleten, weil sie auf dem Show, in der Determined Society, wir lieben es, echte Beispiele zu geben, von Dingen, die losgehen, und wie Menschen in ihrem Leben besser werden können. Und es ist lustig, weil ich schaue, was mit dem Tennessee Quarterback passiert ist. Es geht gerade um etwas, das er nicht bekommt, was er in Tennessee hatte.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Ich kümmer mich auch nicht um die vollen Details, außer, dass er eine bestimmte Anzahl hatte. Er hat mehr verlassen und er bekommt es nicht. Die größeren Schullehrer sind ihn nicht in Kontakt. Es sind Schulen wie UCLA und er sagt, warte mal. Anyway, you know, as you transition from your career, right? You know, I played baseball at LSU.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
I didn't go quite as far as obviously as you did, but that was a big part of my identity. And one of the biggest things I've noticed with you and your whole family is, is you guys transition really well to the next part of life. You know, how, how, but on the inside though, right?
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
How, how was it when you transitioned from, you know, Rob Gronkowski, the football player to entrepreneur and Fox analyst?
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Findest du es, neue Unternehmen zu eröffnen? Du hast gerade Greenlane geöffnet, richtig? Findest du es, wenn du neue Sachen eröffnest, es ist ein neues Herausforderung und du bekommst diese Art von... kommt da ein bisschen ein Gefühl raus durch das?
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Es ist krass, Mann. Ich möchte darauf eingehen, weil du nach New England geflogen bist, nach viel Erfolg. Und du gehst nach Tampa, du machst es mit Brady, du machst es wieder. Wie cool war dieser Moment? Denn das in einer Dynastie zu tun, das ist eine Sache, richtig? Aber in einer völlig anderen Organisation, Jahr eins, blockieren.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Gehen wir zum Showcase. Lass uns das machen. Ich möchte dir von deinem Zeitpunkt aus respektvoll sein. Ich möchte dir noch eine Frage stellen. Lass uns das machen. Der Show heißt Determined Society. Was bedeutet true Determination für dich?
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
You said it best, man. Ladies and gentlemen, please go share this episode with someone that you know, love and trust. Let us know what you loved about it. Listen to it over and over again. There was a lot of amazing things that Gronk mentioned in this episode that you can use to get better every single day in your craft. And until next time, stay determined.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Camille's great. Yeah. You know, and again, dude, just all jokes aside, you know, it was really nice, you know, overnight at your mom's breakfast. We did those omelets in the bag with the boy. I've never done it like that before. And Camille was so kind. My daughter and, you know, they really vibed and it was just, it was an awesome time, man.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Ich war zweimal dort zum Frühstück. Beide Zeiten. Unglaublich. You know, great food. But the one thing that I've noticed most about my interactions with Gordy, your mom, your brothers and then you and everybody in your family is that you guys are all super kind and you're very well adjusted.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
And it's always great to see somebody that's done the amazing things that you've done on the football field and in your entrepreneurial journey. But then to be such a great person and have such great people behind you, that to me says everything about a human being.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Ja, ich denke, was auch interessant ist für den Publikum, ich möchte wirklich, dass Sie darauf eingehen, weil Sie eine illustrierte Karriere hatten, Sie haben mehrere Unternehmen gebaut, Ihre Brüder hatten professionelle Karriere. In der Tat haben auch Ihre Brüder die Superbowl gewonnen. Gordy spielt professionelles Baseball. Jeder single Gronkowski hat professionelles Sport gespielt.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Aber es hat nicht dort angefangen, in meiner Meinung, wenn ich, wenn ich schaue, ich ziehe die Pfanne zurück. Ich schaue auf deinen Vater. Ich schaue auf deine Mutter. Ich schaue auf deinen Vater und wie er Gronkh Fitness gebaut hat. Und er hat euch zu einer frühen Zeit gelernt, etwas von der Grunde her zu bauen. Und ihr habt das Arbeitsethik verstanden.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Ich weiß nicht, ob es sich anfangs, als ihr in eurer Sportjourney war, übersetzt hat, aber das hat einen sehr positiven Einfluss auf euch gegeben.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Danke, dass ihr mich geholfen habt. Es ist lustig, denn sobald das Publikum schaut und hört, ist es sehr einfach zu sehen, was wirklich im Spiel ist. Es ist wie ein Prozess. Du hast über deine Karriere gesprochen. Du hast über Coach Belichick und Brady gesprochen und über all die Leiter, mit denen du gespielt hast. Es gab einen Prozess jeden Tag.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Es gab die Großartigkeit, die auf dem Feld war und du hattest alles vorbereitet, was du noch nicht gesehen hättest. Deine Eltern haben dich für das vorbereitet, wenn du so alt warst. Als du also in die Universität kamst und in die professionelle Welt kamst, war das für dich einfach zweifellos. Mhm.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Es ist wirklich cool, weil du erwähnt hast, dass jeder sein eigenes Geschenk hat, richtig? Das ist das, was wir erwähnt haben. Deiner war deine Größe, deine athletische Fähigkeit und solche Sachen. Und wir leben in einer Welt der Vergleiche jetzt, richtig?
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Und wenn du dem Publikum sagen könntest und ihnen ein Stück Hinweise geben, um zu finden, wer du bist, wer du wirklich bist, ob du hier in einer medizinischen Konferenz bist, richtig? Wenn du in einer medizinischen Firma bist, wenn du ein Athlet bist. Aber das eine spezielle Ding für dich ist, How to stay within that scope and not compare yourself to others?
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Was ist up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Determined Society. I'm your host, Sean Fritsch, and today we are at a special venue for Advanced Solutions' second annual sales meeting. And I have a special guest today, four-time Super Bowl champion, five-time Pro Bowler, and a no-doubter.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Freaking crack up, dude. Good lord. And I only have three quarters of one. Freaking A, man. Cracking up, dude.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Give me ten more. This is like a breakfast for Gordy. Three quarters, yeah. Three quarters, I'm like. It's like a protein shake. I'm a genius.
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Rob Gronkowski on Pain, Purpose, and Being Built Different
Als Tom Brady sagte, hey, ich kann dir sagen, du musst schneller sein als Everybody, war das mehr so dein Rookie-Jahr? Weil ich mich erinnere, ich glaube, einer der ersten Shows, die du an deinem Show gemacht hast, war, du sprachst über die Dinge, die Brady gesagt hat, du musst dich um den Typen kümmern. Ich werde dir nie den Ball schießen. War das es? Ist das, worüber du sprichst?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
yo listen up if you run an e-commerce business you already know shipping is a beast when i released my book i thought the hard part was done until i spent hours every day printing labels boxing products and standing in line at the post office that's when i realized my time is way too valuable ship station changed everything it lets you automate your shipping print branded labels from home
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
So whatever you're going through right now, you need to dig down deep and ask yourself, do you truly believe in yourself? Because if you do not believe in yourself, it doesn't matter what. I say on the air or my unbelievable guests are saying, you are going to be fucking stuck unless you can seriously get that believability in you and not just say it, but feel it in your soul, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
That is the cheat code. And from then, you know, in the sales training, that's basically what my whole thing is on. And then know your key performance indicators, know what you have to do daily in order to move the football down the field a little bit, right? But always execute it. but start with the belief, man. And that's what you guys have done. That's what you did. That's what you did.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
You have to change internally for any real external change to happen. There has to be a growth pattern. Like where I am right now is not going to cut it for the next level. Cool. I'm done now.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And it's just, I'm loving the brand story of Iron Valley in general because I started in COVID.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Yeah, dude, it was wild. It was wild. So anyway, I'm sorry, dude. I just felt appropriate to highlight what you were saying to the audience so they could really dig down and feel that self-reflection of like, okay, do I really believe I can do this?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
You hit the nail on the head, LJ. It's like, you know, you have to change internally for any real external change to happen, right? So if we're, you know, building our bodies back up, right? Getting in good shape, right? If we're trying to build a business or we're W2 in a sales organization, you are never going to sell and you're never going to excel, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
If you don't change internally, there has to be a growth pattern because if not, you're just the same cat.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And the same cat ain't going to get it done. No. Like where I am right now is not going to cut it for the next level. I have to grow. And so do you guys. It's not a never ending thing. Okay, cool. I'm done now.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Like this is fricking Disneyland. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. It's a constant push to get better.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Like, this is freaking Disneyland. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. It's a constant push to get better.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
I like this. And the one thing that I'll say that I love is the fact that you are lifting your boy up right now. It's true. Men don't do that. Men don't do that. You know, not, I'm sorry. That's a, that's a generalization. Most men aren't doing that. Right. They see that as a threat or I like to be exactly where you're at. Julian is like, I want to edify my people.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
I want to say this dude or this girl, she's, they are bad-asses and they are amazing. I want to ask you a question though. Yeah. What do you think the key determinant is? You're the silent ninja, great, you kick ass, but why? What is it about you that can do that? Cause I have my own idea.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
My answer was gonna be service, right? You're serving the people and it's the same answer, right? And that's why I kind of smiled when you said you care for people. Like I find that most successful entrepreneurs actually give a shit about human beings. Like if you just chase the number, We've all done it at one point, right? Like I'm guilty as shit. I like, you know, I got to sell this amount.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Here's my quota. We got to get it. We got to get it. We got to get it. But what I've found now is that when I operate at a place of love and respect and the care for others, and I'm just here to, to give and give and give.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
It's funny how things boomerang back around, and a lot of times it's not that specific situation with that person, but you're like infinitely blessed in another area that comes into that circle, right? And then yes, you do capitalize, you do end up making a lot of money, But it's not because you're out there grinding and like Wolf of Wall Street boiler room stuff.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
You're showing the people who you really are and who we really are as service-driven men. That's what we're here on this earth. We're here to serve.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I am your host, Sean French. Thanks for watching. Before I introduce my two amazing guests this morning, I want to ask you, if this is the first time you are listening or watching this episode, please subscribe on Spotify, YouTube, and Apple Podcasts.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Yeah. LJ, it's a great point. I think it's so important to focus on just the people like you're, if we look at the number, it's like looking up at Mount Everest, like, There's no shot I'm getting way up there. Yeah. But if you just take that step and start moving a little bit, like my goal is to help families.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And the more families you can touch and help, then the number's going to take care of itself. And I always say that that's like staying in your process. Mm-hmm. Right. And again, it's sales training. That's what I'm gonna talk about is like staying within the process. You in sales, you have to have your KPIs. Do you know your KPIs?
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
If you don't understand how long it takes you or how many calls or how many times you canvas to get an actual real lead, to get a listing or a buyer, then how the hell are you ever going to know what you need to do to hit those goals and those numbers that you need to? But it's also important to understand that you cannot live and die on that. It has to be, how can I impact people?
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Like if we make it just about us, we will never get to where we want to get.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Yeah, I agree, man. And you know, the big thing guys, I want to ask you is, you know, like, or to say is if they, if we just, and if people just focus on that activity and let that be the, the journey or the reward, those, those results are quicker because when you focus on this isn't working or like a quid pro quo, right?
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Well, if I make this many calls this week, then I'm going to, I'm going to get X in return. No, bad move, bad move, man. What are your thoughts about that, Jermaine?
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Leave an amazing review and, hey, share the episode with someone that you know, love, and trust. Today, I have a great, great treat for you guys. I got two individuals here that are absolute badasses here in Norfolk, Virginia. I have LJ Hunt and Julian Rivera. They work out of Iron Valley in Norfolk and they have an amazing culture. We're here to talk about their journey today and their company.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Love it, man. It's so funny, too. I want to get your guys' feedback on it. I always... look at it like this. And my manager, who's one of my best friends now, my old manager at Paychex is my district sales manager. He brought me in there. He took a chance on me. You know, it took me from, you know, coaching baseball and teaching and making like maybe 40 grand a year.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And I turned into one of the top salespeople in the country at Paychex. And there's like 2000 of them in that division, right? It was a small to mid-sized business division. We call it SMB. And he taught me at an early point in my career there, he goes, no one gives a shit how much you know until they know how much you care. And I looked at that. I'm like, that's a great quote.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And I, and I can see that, but I want to take it a step further. And I want to add, and I always, I always thought it was like, how are these business owners going to walk away feeling after every interaction with me? how do I make them feel? Yeah.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And if you can make someone feel special and not because you have an agenda, but genuinely like cast such an amazing light and amazing conversation and care towards them that when they walk away from you, they're like, I really like that dude. I feel comfortable with him. I trust them.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
So boys, welcome to the show. Thanks for having us. What's up, Sean? Dude, chilling, man. Those pushups were fun.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Yeah, man. It's interesting to me. I just find a lot of people you know, they forget that side of it. You know, they forget that, you know, we're not entitled to success. We're not entitled to the sale. We're not entitled to grow. We are entitled the right to choose. That's it. And if we choose the right path daily, right, in growing that trust and value with people,
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Man, you know, the world, so to speak, is our oyster, you know? And the one thing that drives me crazy is when people want it right now. It doesn't happen like that, man. I am close. Guys, it's like, you know, you don't know when it's going to happen. There's been some dark-ass times in this show, you know? And you're a listener, so you probably heard me talk about them. Yeah.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Like, there's a point, like, after three years, I'm like... I think this show was this. Analytics were telling me the opposite. Do I tuck my tail between my legs, pack my shit up and go home? Or do I elevate? So I decided I have to take more risks. And I remember talking to my wife. This show started with an iPhone in a car.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Now we're in the den and I'm doing it virtually and having someone edit it, right? And I can't control any of the factors. I can't control someone else's camera. Can't control their sound. But if I'm going to take this to the next level and I got to get the hell out of the house and I need some live, I want, I need some one-on-one, I need some in-person shit.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And from that point, you know, we, I did that, you know, in June of this year. And then my show went through some growing pains. And then right around September, we hit that stride. We hit that stride where, oh my God, like we're on now. We're on. It's like more people are paying attention. More people are sharing. More people that are coming into the sphere. I'm like, how can I listen to this?
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Do you know what's crazy this morning, guys? So, you know, I get up and my team was telling me, hey, don't get up till five. You need to sleep. My eyes opened at like 2.30 in the morning. Finally went back to sleep. And then I was like, fuck, I just got up at four, right? Like normal. Go down the gym or up to the gym. For like an hour and 15 minutes, man, I had that place to myself.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Like what? Like I'm seeing the clips. Like this is great. But it was done because it took a risk. But I think that's another great point, right? We talk about, you know, karma. We talk about the process. We talk about everything. But I think one of the most important factors is taking that calculated risk. I went from, you know, Payne, you heard this on the solo show. Yeah.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
My show used to, I used to pay $110 an episode to edit. Now, you know, I'm paying, you know, four figures every single month for all of it. And until I made that decision, I didn't have that revenue. The moment I decided to make that move, then the show started generating some damn money.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Yeah, it's literally what it is. And, you know, I know the listeners, like some people, like they really hate ads. Like, I just want to listen to the show. Right. Well, listen, guys, I just want to be honest. Is when, when, when, when we have a show like this and the production value and the scale that we want to be like, we need revenue to do this and to make it better for you. Right.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And so, yeah, we have some ads and we have, but I've heard Amazon prime on there. I've heard, you know, Lululemon on there. I've, I've heard Walmart. Right. I've heard McDonald's and I don't like that. We got to fix that. But you know, the, the, that that's big for the show. Yeah. You know, and I, I think that, you know, I would say new level, new devil, right.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And soon there's going to be host red ads and you'll be hearing my voice read them off, but we're, we, you know, I have a guy that's out there hunting those for me. And so we've figured out a system that, And this is the next point that I want you guys to speak on is I've elevated my systems to a point where I'm doing so many different things. I could be sitting there sleeping.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
and I'm making money on my show. I could be sleeping in my team's editing a show, right? I could be sitting there on a phone call with one of you guys at 10 a.m., and my post goes out because my team does that for me. I interact, okay? I'm the one typing and replying and everything like that.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And now, while I'm doing all that stuff, or when I'm hanging out with my kids, my other part of my team is selling ad spots, right? We don't rise to the level of our goals. We fall to the levels of our system. So how important are systems for you guys as realtors and then everybody else in this office?
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Nice. It was cool, man. Yeah. It was cool. I'm like thinking the whole time. I'm like, man, I remember, you know, when going on the road, I would bring my workout stuff and I would never go. Right. And now it's like today was a non-negotiable for me. Right. And I was there and that kind of discipline really, you know, helps throughout the whole day. Yeah. You make that first tough decision, guys.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
It's, you know, it always helps. So. Anyway, tell me about, let's start with LJ. LJ, tell me a little, tell the audience about yourself a little bit briefly, kind of give the background, how you came to Iron Valley, you know, maybe your past and, you know, we'll do the same thing with our boy Julian here and then we'll get down and, you know, down and dirty.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Yeah. Yeah. You have to execute the system. Guys, this has been an amazing conversation. I wish we had like another hour to talk. I feel like this could be a longer episode. I have one more question and I would love for each of you to answer this. And we'll start with Julian. The show is called The Determined Society, right?
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And I built this show and built this brand on the heels of just the sheer wish that I could wake up every day in a society that was determined enough to go chase their dreams no matter how they felt emotionally. And that's what I stick to. That's what we are falling into that discipline and we're executing that daily now. But what does determination mean to you?
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Love it, dude. Very good one. What about you, Ben?
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
It's very good. Well, guys, listen, you know, I've had an amazing time with you guys, and I'm so excited for the sales training that me and Coach Michael Byrd are going to do. I'm excited for the event tonight. I'm excited for the big event tomorrow. This has been such an amazing experience for me, and we're only, I got here just yesterday.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
I'm truly starting to really understand what Michael and Tim Lewis have been talking about this whole time with just this community thing. Um, everybody, everybody is top notch. Everybody is focused on people and everybody's disciplined. And to me, determination is about grit, but mostly it's about determination. I mean, discipline, right? Like what can I do every single day to keep going?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And it doesn't have to be flashy, sexy, or just mean like, Oh, I'm determined. I'm, you know, David Goggins, let David Goggins and Andy Frisella and all them, Jocko be them, right? But you guys out there, be you. And what does determination mean to you? I want you to think of that right now.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Because determination to you right now could mean you're in a depressed state and you just getting out and walking 10, 15 minutes is determination. And I want you to give yourself that grace. And then as you get better and you put more habits in place, then the determination level switches, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
But the determination factor is just the amount of guts to keep moving forward when nobody's paying attention, when nobody is clapping, when you just feel like breaking down and crying. Those are the moments you move forward. So again, I just want to thank you guys for coming on the show and giving the audience a massive amount of value and becoming new friends of mine. It means a lot.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And man, I just appreciate it, Jonathan. I really do. High fives. Thank you for your time. You got it, man. Thank you. Until next time, guys, I want you to do one thing. I want you to share this episode with someone you feel needs to hear it. Don't forget to leave some comments on Spotify so I can go in there and reply back to you. And I would love to hear what you guys want me to talk about next.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
But until then, stay determined.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Yeah. What was some of the things that held you back or that, you know, when you start talking about it, right? Because there's a level of fear, right? I would say probably of, okay, I'm in the hospitality business for 20 years. And now this gentleman is saying that I would be great in real estate. What...
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
That in between, when you were hesitating, or not even hesitating, before you pulled the trigger, was there some sort of fear or kind of a mindset thing that you were battling with for you?
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
I feel like that point right there, like when your alarm goes off and you don't wanna get up and go do the hard shit, right? If we give into that inner voice that says, don't do it, and our brain is wired to keep us safe from anything, right? And it doesn't want to take that risk. It wants to feel comfortable.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
But when we decide to take that move, no matter what we feel emotionally and go do the workout, right? Have the water, have the coffee. And then no matter how bad we feel at that moment right there, we just start moving our body.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
And then after 10 minutes, like you forget that you didn't even want to be there. And now your next decision that's supposed to be hard becomes easy because you've already set the tone for the fucking discipline. Yeah. It's so important. Everybody thinks like waking up in the morning, you know, at 4 a.m. and going to the gym is a flex for social media. That's bullshit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
What it is for me, I have three children and a wife. I don't want to take time away from them. I want to knock it out and I want to be able to get to my house by, you know, 6, 6.15, help the kids get out the door, make their breakfast and their lunches and their snacks and all that kind of stuff.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
Make my wife's coffee, make sure that the car's packed so she can, you know, take them to school, right? knowing that I've completed more than most people are going to complete their whole fucking day.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
This is awesome. Yeah, it's true. My man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
That's why. It is why. Talk about yourself, man. You know, you have another, like, interesting part of you that I want to highlight, too. You do a lot of cool shit.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
I say on the air, you are going to be fucking stuck and not just say it, but feel it in your soul. That is the cheat code.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
The world caught on fire.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
There's a lot of like the adversity, right? There was a lot of starts and stops from what I'm hearing. And what's funny too, and I want to, I want you to go back, but I want to address the audience really quickly. So, you know, we're talking about
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
the whole journey of going into entrepreneurship and leaving corporate America, I think so many people right around the height of COVID did that because it was that reset. It was so unfortunate what happened to so many people, man. Lives were lost. No matter what sub defense you sit on, it still really freaking sucked. No matter how you look at it, it was just a bad time.
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The Cheat Code to Success: Believe in Yourself & Execute Daily
But also it was a time for everybody to kind of reevaluate what they wanted out of their lives. And the one thing I have for you guys watching and listening is simply this. The biggest difference between entrepreneurs and what Julian was asking was the fact that they had a high level belief in themselves.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
No, it was some version of it, but you're fine. Whatever, man. Hey, we're not perfect here, guys. We just keep moving. So I apologize for that. I do know your name. I do know your name. It's fine. I've already fucked up, guys. Here we go. But dude, it's so nice to meet you. You know, we're here for this amazing event. You're actually the stage sponsor, correct?
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
But that's amazing. That's like consistent growth. Right. And I want to I don't want to overlook your grandfather. Like, I would appreciate that because I lost all my grandparents when I was younger. Right. And, you know, I mean, look, man, like nothing is better than a grandparent, dude.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
It's valuable. I think everybody for the audience, I just want you guys to listen and to this point is look back in your life about that one mentor that you had. It could have been a grandparent, could have been a friend or your parents. It's like the value that they bring is truly tremendous because there's been mentors in my life that I don't think I would be where I'm at.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Even the adversaries, I wouldn't be where I'm at right now if those things didn't take place. And I always like to value the past. Right. Instead of, you know, I guess bringing shame about the past of the stupid shit I used to do or.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Cool. So, you know, let's talk about the event first, about what led you to become a stage. That's a pretty big thing. Did you believe in the mission? What spoke to you?
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It's part of the growth journey, right? And if it, and I think a lot of times when people fail or they get egg on their face and go, oh my God, look at me, poor me. This is victim bullshit. When they really need to look at it.
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We could, but we could, right? But this all gives insight to who you are and how you built your company. And the thing is, is when we focus on the past and the mistakes that we've made and the failures that we've made in our businesses, right? no matter how big or small, we start to realize those are the moments that we grow into these amazing entrepreneurs. It's not the wins that take us there.
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It's all those micro failures in between.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Yep. Yep.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Yeah, man.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
I love that, dude. It's a great point because as you're speaking, I'm thinking of all those moments when I was super immature in building this show. So I was doing this, I did this all on me. I think there's a big component of me, but it's like there have been people strategically placed in my path every single stage. And it was up to me to embrace that. But they created space for me.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
When I met Michael Little and Tim Lewis, when we were hanging out with Eric Thomas in Traverse, Michigan, I was just going there to meet a friend. I was going there to meet Eric. And here they come in. And we just said like, hey, are you meeting E.T. as well? Yeah. And we sat down and this whole event was birthed. Like, so for me, it's like, no, I didn't do everything together.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
I didn't do everything on my own. Like he and I built something and then he ran with it.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
you know, having great relationships and leveraging those relationships in a respectful way. Right. Yeah. And doing things together. But I always say like, you know, you're only as good as your circle. Everybody says that. And if you have a powerful circle that just are a bunch of get shit done type of people, you're going to, you're going to excel because of that. Right. But I want to go back.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
I don't want to, you know, I want to say to that point though. Yeah.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Like with your grandfather, does that bring... It's a little nostalgic.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
But I think also to like to your point about that is it's important to understand it, not just from a knowledge standpoint. It's important. It's important to understand all of it. So you can be dangerous enough to send people that way.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Yes, exactly. Yeah. It's how you build a massive business, right? And, you know, I'm reading a book right now called Go-Giver. It's a really good book.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
So I'm not a fan of reading books. Don't get it twisted. My buddy, David Waldy sent it to me randomly. Just, you know, kind of out of the, I said, Hey, what's your address? I sent it to him and in comes two books and one of them is go giver. I'm like, Hmm, beautiful. So I'm like, I have to read this, but typically I'm not a big reader either. You know, I probably should do it a lot more. Yeah.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
But my mind, like if I'm at home and just sitting there, I feel like I'm not doing anything. So after my workout, if I can squeeze it in before the kids wake up or on a weekend or something like that, I'll, I'll crack it open a little bit. But, but yeah, I actually get better about it. Yeah, it did me too. All right. You heard it. Matt and I are going to read more. That's my goal for 2025.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Just read more. That's easy. To be fair, yeah, if you started zero, one books. Boom. Crushed it. Yeah. 100% approval. All right. It's freaking fantastic. I want to talk about your specific company because I know when I did some research on your company, there's a lot of talk about technology and innovation, right?
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Yeah. I've noticed that about him. I met him in July and he's just, yeah, he's my kind of people, man. What I think is awesome. Cause you and I were talking off air about, you know, social media, you know, instant gratification of society and everybody wants something now, now, now. And there's a lot of competition in the world. Right. And I fully believe we don't live in a competitive world.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
How has that played a part in helping the consumer not be surprised by closing statements, et cetera, and how has it made those relationships for you better?
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
It's intimidating.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Yeah, I want to, yeah. There's nothing worse than like, as a, as a, you know, as a buyer or the seller, like, okay, I'm, if it's a refi, I'm getting this much back at closing. Like I'm getting, oh, okay, cool. It's 70 grand back at closing. And you need that 70 grand for something. Maybe a down payment on another home. And then you get your final closing statement and you're getting 40.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
And now you're like, oh my God, or not. That's pretty extreme.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
And this is something that a lot of people are going to listen to the show or watch it on YouTube and be like, what the fuck is he about to say?
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
We live in a co-creative world and it's somebody's choice every single day. Are you going to compete or are you going to co-create? And you and Michael decided to co-create together. That says a lot about how he feels about you and how you feel about him. What are your thoughts there?
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Yeah. Yeah.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Of course there is.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Thank you.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Yeah, I love it. And again, I want to clarify for the audience and even just with you, when I say we don't live in a competitive environment- I don't mean that there's not competition and there's not other people out there competing.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
What I mean is if we focus on the co-creation part of it, right, and we focus on the processes and what we're trying to grow in our businesses and our culture, right, within the business and our standards and everything like that, when we always rise to the standards and the processes every single day, we're gonna beat the competition Nine out of 10 times. Because you know why?
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Wait a little bit and then proceed and respond how you, how you feel you really need.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Yeah, man. Well, look, dude, it's, I've really enjoyed having you on the show, talking about your company and your mindset and your disciplines on how you built this whole thing. I think it's an interesting story. And I know the audience has gotten a ton out of it. I want to ask you one more question before we shut this bad boy down. What does determination mean to you?
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
45 minutes, yeah.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
I love it. And for the audience, you guys always hear me say discipline is not and determination is not this gritty, fighting, scratching and clawing social media definition of being determined. Right. It's not running 17 miles every day. That's just idiotic on your body.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
We know they're there. We respect them, but we don't think about them. We think about what we're doing right here.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Exactly. I think it's just super important for everyone to understand what determination means is that you are getting up and doing the work, executing your process, even when your emotions are telling you not to. Your emotions, at any point in time when you're building something, you can feel them, lean into them, but still move forward a little bit.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Your 100% isn't going to be the same every day, right? Nope.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
You have to. It's interesting because in sports, you grew up playing baseball and at 14, you specialized in hockey. Then you played college hockey up in Boston where you got your college degree.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
More often. Probably good for me.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
100%.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
I love it, dude. I love it. And we're going to end on that. To everybody that has listened to this show, go check out my boy's company. It'll be in the show notes. Click on it. Just learn a little bit more about him. And if you know a buddy in the Virginia beach area that's buying or selling a house, noble title and escrow, please hit them up. And until next time, guys, stay determined.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Anything in Virginia? Let's go. I said Virginia Beach, but whatever. The whole damn state. Yeah. Oh, my boy. You got questions, reach out. Yeah. See ya.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
You played, right? And you got to see three world championships, by the way. That's pretty fucking cool, man. That's pretty dope. Nothing like working at 18 and 6 a.m. for a championship. Yeah, exactly, right? It's like, maybe I should go to class, but I'm going to do this anyway.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Yeah. So I just think it's really cool when you talk about that competitive spirit that you have as a young child and adolescent and going into college. How do you feel that competitiveness has helped you grow your business?
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Yeah.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Dude, it's great, man, because there's a lot of fuel, right? I always say when someone tells me that I can't do something, I remember when I started, people laughed.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
They laughed. They laughed at me, man. Yeah. And I think some people still are, but now they're mad because they were wrong, right? Yeah. But I did not... I think at first it bothered me, Matt, you know, like it really, it really truly did. But then I realized that if I just focus on what I'm doing and what I'm building and the purpose of why I'm doing it, I'm not going to hear it.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
I won't hear it. And it's funny. You know, we hit it off off camera, and now we're having this great conversation. You were the last line of defense. You were a goalie. I was a catcher.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
See? Amazing. We got a bromance going on in here. So it's like behind the plate, you know, in the SEC, like, dude, I remember one time at Alex Box Stadium, the old Alex Box. Yeah. We tore it down and turned it into a fucking parking lot. Midweek game.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Even in our midweek games, we had about 8,000 people there at a college baseball game on a Wednesday playing like Shreveport or some crazy stuff or Loyola in New Orleans. Pop up behind the dish. All right. I missed it. I missed it. They're not easy. Like, potlucks, those are not game easy. You got to take the basket off. You got to find it. You got to find it.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
You got to, you know, backspin, wind, everything, right? You got to make sure you get your back to the, you know, the field and be in a good position. And the amount of, oh, and the whole stadium, it's like, I'm going to tell you, I could block a lot of things out. I could not block that out. I heard that, man. That was loud. Yeah. Yeah.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. I am your host, Sean French. Today, as you can see, we're in a different location. We're at Iron Valley Real Estate here in Norfolk, Virginia for the Determine Your Destiny Tour. I'm super excited to announce today's guest.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
2020.
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Yeah.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
No, you can't.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
That's the thing. It's like the initial thing, right, that you did is you reacted. And I've done it too. It's human nature. Why are they copying, man? Go get your own stuff. And then I'm like, wait a second. They're copying, and I guess there's a quote out there, like, you know, what is it? When someone copies you, it's the best form of flattery or something like that. Yeah. Something like that.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
And now it's like.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Thank you. Thank you. See, guys, he's on it, man. He's on it. So that's my point is, like, I want as many people to copy me as they want.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
And, in fact, I'm at the point where I will give them all the secrets. I will tell them exactly how to grow their show. I don't care.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Yeah, here's the playbook. It's about five or six things. Go for it.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Hey, stay consistent, right? And so consistency is big, right, in sports and in entrepreneurship especially. I want, if you can, I want you to walk everybody through the start and the launch of Noble Title and Escrow in 2020 and how you guys have leaned on technology innovation.
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Before I do that, though, if it's your first time listening to the show, please hit subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube. Go check it out. Leave a comment. Leave a review. I want to know what you think. Today, I have the president and CEO of Noble Title and Escrow here in Norfolk, Virginia, my man, Matt Cantrell. Nice to meet you, buddy.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Yeah.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
Dude, I'm jacked to have you. You're just a handsome son of a bitch. Look at you.
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How Matt Kantro is Redefining Settlements with Noble Title & Escrow
It's amazing, man. There was growing pains. Dude. And that was an interesting time. Cause I don't know how it was up here in real estate, but in Florida, it fucking boom.
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But I would not be where I am without that, man. Like, you know, I always had the level of determination, discipline deep rooted within me. But that dude brought it out in me, man. He showed me how to work, right? He showed me. And, you know, the one thing like you I look at is like I understand it now. You know, like now I can have a better relationship with him.
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Not anymore, man. It took me years to let it go, Edgar. I swear to you. It was like, fuck you, let me show you.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
But he was just trying to make me aware. Like, look, dude. Like, all you really have right now is baseball. What happens when it's done? And I always tell him, I was like, well, I have a good personality. I can talk to people. I was like, I ain't going to pay you.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Here we are. But he didn't know that wasn't a thing back then, right?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Wild, bro. Wild.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
He was. Yeah. I just, I guess my question that before I got, you know, emotional, it was, um, how has the relationship with your mom, right. For what it is. And the fact that you didn't have your dad around, how has that impacted how you've become a parent and how you operate?
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Sharp French, what up?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
So your mom lost her mom when she was 11 due to cancer.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
So she didn't have that mother nurturing. Not at all. That's why she didn't know how to give birth.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah. Yeah.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
That's who she is, man. She ain't changing now.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah, exactly. And you're here.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Good, man.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Because of the military, right, of course.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
I bet, dude. So let's talk to the audience and I want to address the audience really quick because that's a great point. Like when we build something and we start a new career or entrepreneurial journey, like I don't care what anybody says, like real estate agents do, they are entrepreneurs, right? Now they're not selling their own product, right?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
But they are, they, they, they eat what they kill, man. Like that is the, that is the true definition of entrepreneurship, right? Yeah. Um, but, but guys, it's, it's not going to be this quick escalation of success. You know, you cannot expect, you know, I always, I said this to somebody the other day, I was like, it's not the easy bake oven, man. It's not the easy bake oven to success.
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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Determined Society. Before I introduce today's amazing guest, I want to invite you to hit the subscribe button on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts. Leave a written review after I've earned it. Would love to hear your feedback on what you enjoy about the show.
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And he died laughing. He's like, did you make that shit up? I was like, I did. But everybody wants that quick, I'm going to be a realtor, I'm going to sell a house within a month. It just doesn't work like that.
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You got to be more of a consultant, right? Like be able to like, now when you speak to somebody, like, Hey, are you working with a lender? Have you been pre-qualified? Do you know what your budget is? Right. What's the top end? What's the low end? What are you looking for?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah, so like now if someone said, hey, I got $200,000 in the bank. I'm ready to buy it. All right, cool. Hey, so I'm going to go. Tell me what you want. I'm going to find it within a day or two, and then we're going to go buy a house, right? Yeah, yeah. Hey, look. Well— Well, no. Are you ready to buy?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Boom. See ya. Let's get this thing going.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but like, but that's the thing, right? As you build those skills, you didn't have those first six months, probably didn't have in the first year. But as you start to elevate your education and your knowledge over the next year or so, year two, those things start to happen, right?
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You get in a better cadence, you get in a better, you know, pattern of conversation with people, you know what I mean? And it starts to grow pretty quickly at that point.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
And for something that you want to hear more of, please send me an email, sean.french at The Determined Society. And don't forget, guys, share the episode with someone you know, love and trust, who will get a lot out of this conversation. So today I have with me Edgar Munoz. He is from Iron Valley Real Estate Prestige here in beautiful Virginia.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yep. Yep. Your mom was just trying to survive, dude. Yeah. It wasn't a thing where she didn't want to be around you. No. You know what I'm saying? She was trying to support me. Yeah, she was trying to support you. You know, your dad and her split, and, you know, like, that's life, and she had to do what she had to do, man.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah, man, specialty loans, like whatever it takes, right? Then they have like the USDA loans. They have like the VA loans.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Pay off the, and boom, qualified.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Is that your favorite thing about real estate? Seeing people win? Hell yes.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
And we're going to have an amazing conversation and hear about his story. Welcome to the show, bud.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah, man.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
It's so funny because I'm the same way. I mean, dude, I do have a nice vehicle, right?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
I have a TRX. It's my dream car.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
You got throwing some hydros on that?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
But no, like, so I drive a nice vehicle, right? We have a nice house. But like, for me, like, you know, these are my nicest pair of shoes. You know, I don't wear, and people say like, hey, dude, like, when are you going to get a Rolex? When are you going to get a Breitling? I go, never. Never? I, cause like, dude, like, honestly, like I just not, it's just not me.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Like I could, I could have $5 million in the bank account and this is not me. I would rather like spend on experiences with my family or put it back into my show and go on more road trips and interview interesting and amazing people. Cause what I found is a lot of the, you know, the A-list people will, will want to be interviewed, but like you got to go to them. Like that's awesome.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
It's a pleasure, man. It's been great to get to know you the last couple days. Yeah. Being here, you know, you came after my emotions with your San Francisco sweatshirt yesterday. Who do you follow? I'm a Niner fan, dude. Yeah? Yeah. Well, I mean, I grew up there. I grew up in the East Bay.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Like that's an experience.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
I mean, Michael Burt did say he rinses jet sometimes. So like I might be, I might have to take my team on the jet one time, you know, but like it just like that kind of stuff. Like for me, like I'm not a big flashy dude. I'm just some dude from Concord, California that grew up in the fucking ghetto that used to have to run home. So he didn't get his ass kicked by the, by the bloods.
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I mean, I was a dork, dude. Okay. One of the hyper colored shirt, you know, the one that changed colors or the turtleneck shitty ass mullet. And then like the vanilla ice lines. Oh, wow. Yeah, bro. I mean, like I look back, I said to my parents, I'm like, Why'd you let me do that? But no, but that's the thing, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
When you come from humble beginnings, like we, you know, and I didn't realize that I grew up in the ghetto when I was growing up in the ghetto. Right. I knew that there were some seriously dangerous people at my middle school. And even that was life, but that was just life, man. That's just how we had to deal with it back then.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Like that don't, it's funny. Like I remember one time I got, I, I, after school, fifth grade, this guy, Ken Coruban, God rest his soul. He passed, I think probably, I don't know how long ago. But, you know, he was in that life, you know. He was a fighter, man. He was the toughest kid in school. He could throw hands.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
And he ended up, you know, spending time in San Quentin, which is like one of the dangerous prisons on the planet. And, you know, ended up, I don't want to say how he passed. I think it was self-inflicted. But probably maybe six, I don't know, six years ago. And it was sad. You know what's happened? I remember one time in fifth grade, I got in a fight with my good friend, Brandon O'Shea.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
What's up, Brandon? We got in a fight. Remember that shit, dude. Remember that shit. And, um, you know, he called my, my girlfriend a dog, right? He's like, Oh, and it turned out like he actually had a crush on her. Right. Want me to break up with her. Her name was Jacqueline. I can't remember. I can't remember her last name. My wife, coincidentally, my first girlfriend name was Jacqueline.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
My wife, his name is Jacqueline. Damn Jackie's bro. Get me. So, um, we ended up squaring up.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
at uh you know in fifth grade and i hit him once and you know his nose bled and it was really cold right so i got blood all over my sweatshirt yeah and i go into my teacher i'm terrified i'm gonna sweat my sweat my sweat like me and brandon got in a fight i'm sorry like whatever we need to do like i've got blood all over me and um you know that day
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
you know started circling around fifth grade that king caruba wanted to beat my ass because he saw he's like oh you knocked now you're a threat now i'm going to show you where you're at and so i remembered i was so terrified right waiting for that i ran to like my car like my mom my dad and i thought my mom was picking up right and my dad i ran the car he's like why are you running
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
I'm like, just go, go, go, go. And King Karuban comes up. He goes, is that dude trying to fight you? I go, get the fuck out of the car. I go, uh-uh. He goes, get the fuck out. Trust me. And I got out. And Ken's like, let's go. I'm like, why? And then it never happened. It never happened. Right. It never happened. But like, I'll never forget that. Like, you know, my dad was like, get out.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
You're going to, you're going to face this. And I didn't realize then is it's, it's a gift. Right. You know?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah, dude, it was chaotic. It was at the gym, right? Was it at Iron Asylum last night? Yes, it was. What an amazing gym, by the way.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
You don't remember anything.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
great alvin alvin and kyle are stand-up dudes i love their partnership because they're so different they just complement each other so well um you know in this the gym like you know there's big box gyms nothing against them right but you know these these individuals they have four locations and they want their people to show up they they price it at such a great price at 39 a month and
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14.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
just taking care of myself right like i'm gonna walk myself to the hospital and they're gonna put this tooth back in my mouth and it doesn't cost money by the way like it's a freaking lego right like dude this is this is interesting and so the audience right now is probably thinking like how does this apply well it applies one billion percent to what he does now and why he's so successful so tie the two together right that life to what you do now yes so the the fear okay the fear okay though even in the military i work with weapons those things could blow up i could die yeah
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Well, because here's the thing, dude, like I love that. I love what you're saying right now because people feel, well, I don't hold on. They attach an emotion to a task. Yes. It needs to be an emotionless move. Like, you know, if I have something that I think that you would benefit from, I have to remove the emotion from it. I would say, Hey Edgar, look, dude, I can help you with this.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Are you interested in talking about it? And you say, no, I go, okay, well, is it not alignment or you just, is this a bad time? Yeah. It's not a good time. When's a better time. Yeah. And you know, it's like, just, just get removed. Yeah.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
If you called me randomly, hey, French, what's up, man? I saw you were looking at some properties. How can I help you? Wait. How do you know my name?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Who is this? Oh, this is so-and-so from Iron Valley Real Estate. Why did you call me French? And then you would say, I don't know, man. It's just me.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
And it's a trainer's gym, dog.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
No, and I wouldn't want you to. But my point is, if one of these people trying to get my business, when I answer the phone, This is Sean French. What's up? Like, I'd be like, dude, okay. Like, even if I don't know this person, they already know me. Right. So I just think that's a more authentic way to handle something. Now, again, guys, don't be calling your prospect like, yo, McGinnis, what's up?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
But like, if you, it has to flow well.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
That's one of the things that drives me crazy though, dude, to be honest with you is like, is the, is the other end of it, right? Like we live in a day and age of technology. Like, like when these people on Instagram try to, you know, get my business, like you look at my page, what do I do? Yeah. Podcast, right?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
They'll send me a message. Hey man, do you have a podcast? Delete. Like, are you that lazy? Are you that lazy? So we live in a world where you could literally pretty much find almost everything about me. They go in and type in, in the search engine, in Google, Sean French, the determined society. It'll give you everything. So- Chat GPT me. It'll give you everything. Show me effort.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Of course not. I mean, it's 25,000 square feet. It's kind of really hard to fill up. Man.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
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massive dog but no so um that was fun last night but yeah like listen man i i totally understand you know it was chaotic there we were moving and i think we've been moving in like nine million directions since thursday when we got here but but dude no yeah i'm from i grew up in uh conquer california okay i was born in walnut creek and um yeah i grew up a niner fan man
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Why would I leave what I own to go be a number somewhere else and build your rampart?
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
A hundred agents, dude. Let me ask you a question, man, as we kind of, you know, dive into the end of the show. And by the way, it's been amazing having this conversation with you. I love real life conversations, learning about people, but also tying in how that upbringing, like your mom, your dad, you know, the fighting, how it made you the entrepreneur that you are now.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
I think that's fricking so interesting. And I just hope that people are out there listening right now. It's like, well, if he's done it, then why can't I? Right. But the last question I want to ask you is, well, one of the last questions is this is the determined society, right? And I created this platform because my dream and my wish is to wake up in a society that people chase.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
They were determined to chase their dreams and their goals, no matter how they felt emotionally every day. So no matter what, they were going to move just a little bit towards that goal. What does determination mean to you?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
that's all it is the daily task you're doing today is for that future accomplishment you want to get to so don't focus on the angle that you're not going to make it no just focus on finishing that day up I love it dude and that's a great point man and for the audience listening it's like if you feel like quitting I heard this somewhere I wish I could cite where I heard it's not my it's not proprietary I always preface that because I don't want people to say like he took that for me like hey I heard that over there it's not mine
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Like, that was a Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Brent Jones, and Roger Craig era.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
But like, if you feel like quitting, just finish that one day.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Quit tomorrow. Make that decision tomorrow. Quit tomorrow. And then the next day, if you still feel like quitting, finish that day. Right? Because I cannot tell you, there's been multiple times where I've wanted to stop.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
It's well, it's, it's called an assault bike. Well, and that's what it looked like.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Because she's like, I can do hard things. I did this salt bike. I can finish this. And as much as people want to think nothing, that's not connected. It is.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
You leave it on the table, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Just keep going. Yeah. No, I, I adore her. She reached out to me, um, you know, prior to me coming and, Oh, okay. Tag me in some stories. And I'm like, I like this person, you know? Yeah. I just think that she's going to be a star for you for sure. And you can tell she's in a growth pattern right now.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
You got some bipolar disorder going on. You had Niner colors.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
And it's a beautiful thing to see, man.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
I love it, man. I love everything you guys are doing here. You guys are movers and shakers. You guys are my people. And this has been such an enriching experience to be up here in Norfolk and Virginia beach, to get to know every one of you guys. Like you guys have it figured out. Like you guys are grinders. You do what you need to do. Super disciplined.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
And you guys are taking everything that you learned in the service as far as deadlines and systems. And you're bringing it over here to the community. And I just, I just tell you, man, I, I just am so freaking impressed by all of you. That's no doubt. Like no bullshit.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
We went from yesterday. I think the first show was at 830 and we didn't wrap until 1015 last night.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Nine shows in two days.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
On my team, Grit Media.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
My wish for every show is that they have somebody like them.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Like they, you know, they're, they're, they're my people, man, their family. And yeah, so get, get you got someone like them or get them.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Oh yeah, absolutely.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Well, dude, thank you so much. I appreciate you, Edgar. Listen, guys, I want to remind you to hit subscribe, YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts. We grow the show and we get to do amazing things like this because of you guys watching and pouring into the show and letting us know what you want to hear. So please share the show with someone you know, love and trust, like I asked at the beginning.
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Dude, scariest shit ever. I'm going to tell you something. So back in junior college baseball, I was at Los Madonnas College. I was my first JUCO. And part of the requirement there is you had to fundraise. But one of the ways we fundraised is we didn't go door to door for shit. But we were going to Raider games and being the event staff. Oh, okay.
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And don't forget to leave a review. I want to hear what you think. But until next time, guys, stay determined.
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Shout out French, what up?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
I thought I was going to lose my life one day, dude. So, you know, imagine, you know. That's the old stadium. Bro, in Oakland, right? Gone, yeah. In Oakland, yeah. And so, you know, we would go and they would brief us and we'd have the stupid-ass jacket on that no one respects. The moment someone sees an event staff guest, they're like, let's fuck with this guy, right?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
So one day I was placed on the third deck. And it was miserable. It's hot up. It was hot. And you're always like, hey, you can't be on the railing. Hey, you can't do this.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
And like you said, Raider fans are not like 49er fans or Cowboy fans or they're like, you don't want to mess with these people, dude, right? I mean, they... They could have been just out of San Quentin. You don't know. You don't know about those people. Sorry to profile Oakland Raider fans. Well, they're in Las Vegas now.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
But, dude, God, man, it was scary. So this one time, there was this guy. He was just, like, on the railing and, like, just spilling his beer. I was like, hey, man, can you? I was like, listen, dude, I don't really want to be here, man. And I'm not here to tell you what I get. But I'm going to get kicked out of here if I don't say, hey, can you please remove yourself from here? Right.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Just spilling beer everywhere, dog. Like, cool, have a good time. Back up a little bit. Like, whatever. I can't control it. But like, can you help me out? Hey, man, no problem. And he kind of looked at me. It was like, no problem. But it was like, there's a problem. I'm like, oh, that kind of brother fucker, dude, this is not going to be good.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
So then like 20 minutes later, a female was doing the same thing. She had, you know, like she wasn't fully dressed and, you know, I didn't see, I didn't, I looked and I'm like, And I was like processing through my mind. I'm like, okay, I tell her to move now. And I went like this to tell her to move. The guy goes, you piece of... Oh, because she's hot? Because she's a girl?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
You're not going to tell her to move? I'm going to whoop your ass. I'm like... Oh my God. I'm like, dude, I'm like, no man. I was just telling, I'm like, whatever. And so like, I had to like, like they literally had to move me spots. Cause this guy was really wanting to fight me.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Bro, it's crazy. And then, and then one time I worked the end zone or the, they call it the black hole, the black hole. Yeah.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
With the A's and the Giants?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
It's like the L.A. Dodgers and the San Francisco Giants. Remember that guy that got beat up so bad he's like a vegetable? I don't know if he's still alive or whatnot, but he was at the game, I think, with his family.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
I mean, come on.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah. I mean, come on. What are you doing here? And you're tough? I can't take you seriously with all that makeup on your face. Dude, seriously. My uncle's a Raider fan. I'm like, dude, you're pretty vanilla, dog. Like, what are you doing, man? Really? What the fuck's going on? You got some high heels in your fricking closet.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Um, but no, dude, but so, so catch the audience up on who you are, you know, you know, obviously you're a veteran. Um, talk about your journey and how it led to real estate.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
OK.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah. Oh.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Wow.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
How was that for you? When you say culture shock, though, because I get it, right? It's not a good or a bad thing. It just is.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
But what was that experience like and how did you adjust to it?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Right, right, right, right. The identity isn't quite matching where you're at yet.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
What was the point of contention with you and your mom, if you don't mind me asking?
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yes, of course.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Okay. Wow.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Okay.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
Yeah, man.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
That's that's amazing, dude.
The Determined Society with Shawn French
Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
you know, let me ask you a question, man, because, you know, obviously we have different stories, but you know, my mom has always been around. Um, I didn't have a father figure in my life until I was nine.
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Overcoming the Odds: Edgar Munoz’s Journey to Real Estate Success
And, um, me and my, he's my dad. Like I, that's my dad. Right. I mean, we've had our shit, you know, we've gone years without speaking. And in fact, we recently reconnected again in September and I'm taking it for what it is, man. You know, I still need my dad. I need my daddy. You know, it's like, you know, I've always, um, It's been hard, right? Because we've disagreed on a lot of stuff.