Shawn Johnson East

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1,466 appearances 5 recordings 4 series first heard Nov 2025 last heard yesterday

Shawn Johnson East’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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It took us four years to write.

And I'm like, do you think anybody will read it?

The amount of presidential memoirs and biographies that would have been pretty much included in this book if I hadn't put my foot down.

Andrew, he reads every biography under the sun.

And he's like, oh, this would be a good example.

And this would be a good example.

I'm like, it's not a book about the presidents.

Truly.

Okay, you also had strict rules.

There was like a no drinking policy.

There was a lights out curfew.

They ran a really tight ship, but it worked really well.

It's countercultural right now.

I feel like culture right now is preaching the opposite of commitment.

They're telling you on all social medias and black holes of like, keep your options open and make sure you have impulsive, immediate satisfaction.

And you find a dopamine hit every five minutes.

And it's like, the world is telling you that commitment is not worth it.

And we try to give the argument that it actually is.

Yes.

I think it takes practice.

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