Shawn Ryan

were together and then we weren't and it worked again wow yeah so what it what is i mean i don't know much about witchcraft you don't want to what what is the in a snapshot what is it is it well um there there there is a uh

understanding that there are black witches and white witches, that there are witches that do good.

But witchcraft is still witchcraft.

It's the use of the elements and, you know, there's alchemy, there's wizardry, sorcery, electricity, magic.

There's use of blood, use of spit, use of sperm, use of all of these things that are all part of...

what was created and being used in an unnatural way.

So, um, you know, for me, I, I, when I walked away from practicing any kind of witchcraft, cause I, I, I didn't practice it.

I did it two times and both of them worked.

And then I went, this is bigger than I am and I'm not going to mess around with this.

And so, um, wrote the song, the conjuring and, uh,

And there was another song that was kind of along from that inspiration, from that experience.

It was Bad Omen.

Wow.

You started with Coke, right?

Yeah.

I mean, basically.

But when I really... I went...

I went straight to crack when I decided that I was gonna drop off the face of the earth.

Go full-time?

Yeah.