Shawn Ryan

I still kind of like the earth.

I'd rather – if I had the same resources, it probably would be more – less aerospace now, it would be more infrastructure, trains and things like that.

A lot of things you can do that people would care about.

terra firma but um but yeah so but it's funny because it can align like your vision a certain way like if you want to get to mars and you think oh i need some sort of like invention to do that then we gotta like build this ai to be smart enough to help us figure out how to do that and then we need to like you build the i to also figure out the health of the energy problem so that we can scale it up the right amount to be smart enough to do that i don't know so like it's a kind of funny thing where you can use end goal to tell you how to to get somewhere and so maybe he's used that or maybe it's just a good marketing scheme i don't

I don't know.

I mean, I think I don't feel that existential need the same way in the sense of the point where you need to get to Mars if you're not already able to go there.

Try to avoid that first, maybe.

And you actually would have more expertise on that side of things, how scared you are about chaos.

Yeah, but that's a bias that you'd have.

I mean, I'm sure they have to get you trained to save it, right?

Right.

I mean, I looked up to, I mean, different parts of lots of people.

But like at the time when I was a kid, it was because, you know, it was Virgin Galactic, Blue Origin, SpaceX were the ones who were kind of these big players in this private aerospace industry.

And they were like, whenever any parts of their companies were at these air shows, like that was the cool stuff.

And I, again, I like this notion of trying to

make profitable or build something that wasn't necessarily its best value proposition wasn't so much the capital that it could get, even though you try to make it self-funding or something like that.

I like that kind of encapsulation of doing things.

Because I think, for example, theoretical physics research,

You can have a lot of YouTubers go around and debate like, why is a taxpayer funding this?

Or is it stagnating?