Shonda Rhimes

Yes.

Yeah.

Yes.

Same for me.

Exactly.

I just got to live in it longer.

And so in a lot of ways was tricked by it longer, I think, because I was living this glorious existence inside of a television screen on a soundstage that had nothing to do with the world.

Well, I mean, you know the environment at home.

You know the environment you're in.

There's nothing unknown about it.

You know, there's no like, what am I going to say if I meet these new people or what if I say something stupid?

I'm at home in my pajamas on a sofa with a laptop.

You know, that's a world I know and I'm very comfortable with.

I don't really have to get outside of it because in that world, I'm still the same way.

I'm watching television shows and I'm imagining and I'm having a great time, but I'm not experiencing anything new and I'm not challenging myself.

And it's much safer that way.

I mean, I think for a lot of people, it feels much safer.

I mean, it means I had three or four great friends that I'd known since college and those were my friends.

And I wasn't meeting anybody new.

It means that I remember somebody wonderful wanted to throw me a dinner party.