Simon Hill

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785 appearances 8 recordings 3 series first heard May 2026 last heard 29 Jun

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The Rich Roll Podcast · What Happened To The Vegan Movement? Rich & Simon Hill On The Rise & Fall Of Plant-Based Eating · 29 Jun 2026 podcast

And that's when the trust arose.

However, the feedback you get

is interesting here because if you speak in the absolute kind of extreme way, the initial feedback you get is a reward.

We're seeing the repercussions now, right?

But initially, that absolute language was absolutely embraced by the vegan community.

And I know from my early days, like even publishing my book, I got email after email from people who are ethical vegans who didn't love my message of context and nuance because it felt like I was leaving the door open, that I wasn't being firm enough with my language.

And through correspondence, where I did have correspondence with these people, I would explain that my job was to convey the nutrition science objectively.

But

I think the trap is that back in 2020, leading with that absolute language was embraced and you were kind of platformed and elevated.

And so the immediate feedback was positive.

Yeah, we're conflating the absolute language with competence in that respect.

But the job of a scientist is to convey the degree of certainty and uncertainty.

And everything has a degree of grayness.

It's carved me out a niche in the podcast world, but if you look at my- But there's trust.

If you look at my listenership though, if we're being completely candid, it's pretty small compared to a lot of the health and wellness shows that we know.

Right.

Let me throw back to you.

I'll try and I'll try and let me try and distill my philosophy in nutrition into something that's packaged up because I think we can have the, the nuance and the context conversations, but we also need to deliver something that people can grab a hold of.

And I don't think this is that complicated, even though it respects the nuance.

Choose a plant-predominant diet.

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