Simon Mills

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And we're learning that more and more of what we eat, particularly from the plant side, is converted by the microbiome into medicines.

And all those polyphenols and the colourings and so on are in that group.

So a lot of the benefits of polyphenols are post-biotic benefits.

Answers your earlier question, doesn't it?

Yeah, I was leaving the best to last.

Yeah, there's a lot of work on that.

Curcumin and turmeric.

As I said, a lot of people get confused because they think it only works if you absorb it into the blood.

And I'm saying that actually you don't.

What you do is you work with the microbiome to make it useful.

Yes, well, that's definitely a big story.

But just on the, when you say preclinical, that usually means that it does mean laboratory.

So that's A, test tubes, and B, rats and other animals.

None of those tell us what happens when we... Put it in a human.

Put it in a human.

So all the preclinical study will do is point to a possible effect.

And time again, pharmaceutical companies will tell you this.

You know, a promising preclinical lead doesn't lead to a medicine because it turns out to be atoxic or doesn't agree with humans.

So we take preclinical evidence with caution.

And personally, I'm mostly interested in human evidence.

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