Simon Sinek

Then, so let's be clear that what we mean by, it's not lazy, what we mean by is how do you live a life where you care, like people who don't care?

So I think older generations, and I count myself amongst them, our generation is pretty judgy because we believe you go to work, you get the promotion, you move you up the ladder, and we kind of understand people who don't have ambition.

It's like, what do you mean you're not interested in moving up the ladder and getting more responsibility and

one day achieving a leadership position.

But we're pretty judgy, right?

And I think we have to recognize that raw ambition is fine for some.

And some people...

want to just come to work, get a paycheck, and have that paycheck pay for their lifestyle.

And they're not interested in moving up the ladder.

They're interested in fair compensation.

It's not that they don't care.

They do care.

They still do good work.

They're just not career-minded.

They're lifestyle-minded.

And so we can't judge them as unproductive and lazy just because they don't have any aspirations to move up through the ladder.

But they can't get old.

if they haven't been giving like massive raises when they're just, you know, like managing.

And I know a lot of people who are very happy.

They make a decent living.