Sofia Puccini

We are live here on MTS with Clement DeLong, who is the CEO of Hugging Face, which has been really an incredible resource for anyone who's interested in large language models and especially open weight large language models.

I've been a Hugging Face user for a while now.

So it's great to have you here.

Clem, thanks so much for coming on MTS.

Yeah, of course.

Thanks for having me.

Absolutely.

Well, you're a big proponent of open source, you know, as we all know.

But do you think that labs should ever restrict releasing their models in an open source way for safety reasons?

Like, yeah, in 2022, 23, it was way too early for that.

The models at the time were toys.

But now we have stuff like Claude Mythos, which supposedly can like really assist people with cyber attacks.

We have models that are increasing pretty dramatically in bio capability, which could be even scarier.

So do you think companies should still be releasing their models open source?

Well, right now on the topic of regulation, President Trump is in China where he will be meeting with Xi Jinping over the next couple of days.

And they're going to be discussing, among other things, AI regulation and international AI agreements.

So what do you hope to get out of this in terms of open source?

HuggingFace has been compared to GitHub a lot, you know, the GitHub of AI.

But why wasn't GitHub the GitHub of AI?

It seems like they've kind of fumbled a lot of things in the AI realm.