Sohrab Ahmari

problem for two decades.

Short of that, like...

Let's not go there.

Let's just leave.

I mean, I'm just saying let's please leave.

But my problem is I just can't be sure that in order to, like, maintain credibility, he's not tempted by the escalation trap that eventually leads to the 500,000.

Thanks for having me, Megan.

So let me start since you mentioned my background.

Yes, I'm an American of an Iranian background.

And I got to tell you, if the regime change operation or the war, whatever they're calling it, panned out the way that the president laid out in his initial speech and the various statements,

advocates for this war had envisioned, then, you know, as an Iranian American, I'd have an easier time because I hate this regime.

You know, it's driven me and my family into exile.

And I would get to go back, presumably.

But it's as an American, as an American by choice, that I oppose this war for some of the reasons that you laid out with Marjorie.

In the previous segment, the bottom line is I thought that after two decades of failed regime change wars, the United States was going to focus, especially under Trump and under this kind of populist conservatism on domestic reconsolidation, building up at home, restoring our hollowed out industrial capacity.

rethinking how we do immigration and admitting far fewer people.

And that takes real work, not just some of these ICE raids, but that takes legislation that the president hasn't done.

And of course, being prepared for the real challenges of the 21st century.

For the most part, they lie in East Asia.

That's where America's future challenges and opportunities are.