Sonia Kahlon

I think it's nice to have options and movements that are different.

I think it's also really good for good branding.

Like I think that that has shifted the culture, the sober curious of it.

I think that's why we have so many alcohol-free drinks and like NA beers and like that type of thing.

I think it's the sober curious.

I don't think...

i don't i'm not sure if they made any beer for alcoholics or addicts i think they made it for people who were like well i feel like going out to watch football but i don't feel like getting trashed every sunday but i still feel like i want to be a part of it

I think this goes back to, again, like why we started the podcast.

It's coping mechanisms too, right?

And so I think that for me, it was like successful women.

That's sort of like what you do, right?

And even when you're mentioning like, yeah, I lived in New York and you're going to like Michelin star restaurants and they're pairing wine.

And I wasn't having like a half a glass of wine like you were.

having I was having like 15 glasses of wine with a 15 course meal but I think it's just really embedded into like how we socialize how we cope when I was going through my divorce I wasn't very until then hadn't people knew I didn't drink but they didn't really know why and so my friends that didn't know why were like come over honey let's have a bottle of wine and we can just talk shit about your ex and

And so I think that that's just sort of how we cope and how we socialize as I mean, I think as women, but I think men do it, too.

They just do it like, you know, they just like drink beer at a football game.

But I think it's just a way I just wasn't ever when I think about it, like, yeah, wasn't ever comfortable being myself.

Right.

And so it was so much easier.

to drink and be someone else.