Sonia Kahlon

And so, yeah.

this a problem maybe i should figure something out maybe i shouldn't do that sober curious but what happens when we take that contemplation phase though so now we've taken sober curious and we made it into a movement right so i think it's a moderation

Not even moderation movement.

It's a movement of like, oh, I can go a few weeks without drinking and then I'm going to mindfully drink and then I can go.

That's what I wonder.

I wonder if it would have been better for like, I do wonder this.

If someone gave me sober curious as an option, right?

Like you can still drink.

You don't have to go all the way.

Cause I think that kept me from quitting was that, Oh, so what?

Like I can never drink again.

But I do, I think I would have failed at being sober curious and I maybe would have like

with it for like a couple of years.

I tried not to drink.

I just couldn't do it.

So yeah, but I do feel like there have to be alternatives, right?

And that was another point of us starting the podcast.

There have to be alternatives to AA.

And so when most people think about, you know, not being happy with their alcohol use, they, like I did, think, well, the only other option is AA.

So...