Sonia Kahlon

I'm going to say like these guys, just like lumping them all together to be this like 85 year old white guy smoking a cigarette, telling you about this, like his worst.

Oh, this is fun.

He got drunk.

And so this is new.

They're the,

These really, I wouldn't say they're depressing stories, but I'm not sometimes sure what the point is of rehashing the worst parts of the worst stories.

Yeah, I look at it like call yourself whatever you want as long as you are

drinking less kind of thing or drinking in a healthy way right so it doesn't really like alcoholic doesn't bother me substance use disorder doesn't like someone with substance use disorder doesn't none of it bothers me addict doesn't bother me sober curious doesn't bother me none of it really does i mean i have some questions about being cali sober that i've been trying to get answered but ask them really yeah so i've tried inner are you cali sober would you describe yourself that way

I know, but would you... Okay, so would you... I was just on your podcast.

Do you smoke weed or do psychedelics?

Okay.

I agree.

I think if you're not able to become that version of yourself, then that's the issue.

I think that sober curiosity isn't necessarily for me, right?

I think that for me, for the foreseeable future, I think abstinence is working for me.

But I think that...

that there are people that kind of fit that, the sober curious profile where they're like, oh, I'm drinking more than I want to.

I don't like how it makes me feel.

They're not, you know, like I was, which is like absolute shit show, like drinking every night.

That like, yeah, I was curious about sobriety too, but not curious enough to stop drinking.