Spencer Matthews

I think it's so important.

Tom Beard, at the very beginning of documenting Project 7, said, why are you doing this?

I said...

I can reel off three or four reasons that I think I'm doing it, but I think that will become clear when we're out there.

You know, I think it's for such a simple question, it's a really hard question.

Yeah.

You know, it's because it's easy to look at something like Project 7 and go, you know, why?

It's very hard to answer that question.

And things started coming to the forefront of my mind during it.

that I found really interesting.

But it's, again, your podcast being called Begin Again is really interesting to me.

That's something I feel like I've done a few times.

You recreate yourself and you constantly try and change and grow and be better, which is why I'm so happy we're here talking.

Of course, yeah, a pleasure.

Michael was 12 years older than me.

He was 22 at the time of his death, and he was the youngest Brit to reach the summit of Mount Everest, which is a stat that he wouldn't have cared about, but I like saying it.

You know, very difficult for me to have a full character assessment of him being 10, but as I understand it, he was a very modest, kind...

Not quiet, but probably a fair amount more reserved than me, but a very beautiful soul, good-looking young man, very successful in his own right early on, just very good at anything he did.

And on all counts, quite a special boy, I suppose we should call him, you know, 22.

You know, there were unusual circumstances surrounding his death.