Spencer Matthews: The Real Reason I Push Myself So Hard...

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Spencer Matthews 0:00
There were unusual circumstances surrounding my brother Michael and his death.

What is Project 7 and why is it significant to Spencer Matthews?

Spencer Matthews 0:04
We certainly felt that his death could have absolutely been avoided, and so I carried a lot of hatred towards people. Marrying an amazing woman who I want to be better for has been very helpful, but I could just see the relationship slipping if I didn't make an actual change.
Davina McCall 0:19
Before you tell me about that, could you just explain to us what you did?
Spencer Matthews 0:23
Two world record Ironman attempts, and we went from London to Arizona to Cape Town to Perth to Dubai to Rio and finished in Antarctica. These things make me feel really alive. Cape Town, it was the first time that the challenge felt very dangerous and that it could come to an end.
Davina McCall 0:41
Shark City, isn't it?
Spencer Matthews 0:42
Heart thumping, hyperventilating, lost sense in my arms and legs. I was just thinking about my kids.

How did Spencer learn to express his emotions more openly?

Spencer Matthews 0:47
What a stupid way to die. But, you know, I've been incredibly lucky to have people that I admire in my own family, especially my brothers, Michael and James. I want my family and friends to know that I could handle this.
Davina McCall 1:01
What is your next journey? Um, I think... I love you.
Spencer Matthews 1:06
Nearly cried. I was so nearly there, I thought, how can I suppress these feelings?
Davina McCall 1:13
And firstly, we've got to talk about Project 7 because I... Well, well done.
Spencer Matthews 1:21
Thank you.

What fears did Spencer face during his Ironman challenges?

Davina McCall 1:22
I mean, what, December the 4th you got back?
Spencer Matthews 1:24
I got back just a few days ago. I think we finished around then. Unbelievable. Been back for 48 hours or something.
Davina McCall 1:30
Unbelievable.

How did Spencer's relationship with Vogue impact his transformation?

Davina McCall 1:32
I mean, how are you physically feeling?
Spencer Matthews 1:35
I feel much better than I thought I would. It's not so much a physical feeling, but very proud. And for me, that hasn't always been a given. You know, I've carried a fair amount of shame through my 20s and 30s. you know, regretted a lot of my behavior. And so for me to be able to express myself in this way is really meaningful to me. It feels like real progress. You know, it's a big difference to where I feel I've lived before. And yeah, I'm just really proud of the team and what we did. I feel... And it's not so much for me to say, but I feel that we have done a really good job, you know, that we did something special, that we've made hopefully a bit of a difference. And, you know, the whole thing feels really worthwhile and I'm really happy with it.
Davina McCall 2:36
Isn't that a nice feeling?

What role did Spencer's brother Michael play in his life and struggles?

Davina McCall 2:37
It's so good, isn't it? I mean, I can't even begin to imagine the level of training and input that you must have had to put in beforehand. Before you tell me about that, could you just explain to us what you did and the countries that you did it in?
Spencer Matthews 2:56
Sure. So Project 7 was... Two world record attempts, one being the fastest time to achieve an Ironman distance triathlon on every continent. So seven Ironmans. We were aiming for 21 days.

How does Spencer define self-improvement and its importance?

Spencer Matthews 3:12
And then also the fastest Ironman in Antarctica as a kind of double-headed thing. For those that don't know, an Ironman, a full Ironman is a 3.8K swim, which is roughly 40 football fields, followed by a 180K bike, which is a cycle from London to Manchester, followed by a full marathon. And that's kind of, that's back to back as a single event. Seven times, and we went from London to Arizona, to Cape Town, to Perth, to Dubai, to Rio, and finished in Antarctica. and only two people have ever done an Ironman in Antarctica before. I was the third and the fastest, which is great. You know, and actually it never really, that second record was a bit of a cherry on top. You know, I never really spent too long thinking about that, but obviously nice to have a target and a bit of friendly competition.
Spencer Matthews 4:07
I managed to speak to the guy who inspired the whole journey, Connor Eminey. He's a triathlete from Toronto. And he was just incredible, lovely heart, very kind man, you know, just really helpful, gave me loads of great advice. And, you know, we were doing this for a number of reasons, which I'm sure we'll get into, but it was... Yeah, I want to talk to you about that.

What is the modern crisis in masculinity according to Spencer?

Spencer Matthews 4:30
Pretty special time in my life again, and, you know, just delighted to be home. Kids surprised me at the airport.
Oscar Piastri 4:36
Did they?
Spencer Matthews 4:37
Yeah, it was an incredible feeling.

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